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18-07-11, 00:01
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Lily Spence (MM)
mother's mother
Name Lily Spence [Elizabeth on birth certificate, but her mother was Elizabeth as well, so known lifelong as Lily] Date and place of birth 3 February 1875, Chapel Street, Headingley, Leeds (sub-district Kirkstall), Yorkshire (have cert.) Names of parents George and Elizabeth Spence (late Wilson formerly Crampton) Details of each of his or her marriages - if any - and any divorces 26 April 1900 to Walter Pickles Berry, bachelor, Organ Builder (Journeyman) residing at 1 Waxbury(?) Place, Leeds; in Brunswick Wesleyan Chapel, Upper Town Street, Leeds, by certificate witnesses Ethel M. Spence (Lily's sister) and C.W. Burgon (Charlie, Lily's brother in law, husband of her half sister Blanche née Wilson) (have cert.) Occupation(s) - if any Pupil Teacher before marriage I've edited this to read "Pupil Teacher" rather than "School Teacher" as I've learned that it was a specific institution, described here by someone on rootsweb: Certificated teachers - the pupil teacher route Military service - if any none Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on, if applicable. census 1881, Headingley with father, mother, one full sister Ethel May (not "Mary"), two half sisters and two half brothers. George SPENCE Head M Male 51 Knaresbro', York, England Coachman (Unemployed) (D)census 1891, Sutton-in-Craven with father, mother, half sister Emily who has now taken her stepfather's surname, and full sister Ethel Registration district: KeighleyHarding Houses, Cross Hills/Crosshills near Keighley, Yorkshire (West Riding) (marriage cert., 26 April 1900) census 1901, Leeds with husband Walter and daughter Hilda Walter D Berry 26 Elizabeth Berry 26 Hilda Berry 2/12 They were a little hard to find on the 1901. Walter is mistranscribed as Walter D rather than Walter P, and Lily is recorded as Elizabeth. Piece: 4230 Folio: 69 Page Number: 16 Household schedule number: 116 10 Lomond Street, Leeds (birth cert. of 2nd daughter May, 25 Sept. 1904) census 1911 Edinburgh 5 Shandon Place 3 rooms Lily Berry Wife 36 Mar. 11 yrs. Children born 3 living 3 Hilda Berry Daur 10 May Berry Daur 5 Amy Berry Daur 4 I don't know where Walter is, but he traveled constantly for his work. That may be him in Glasgow on the 1911 census but I don't want to spend the credits to find out just now. 5 Shandon Place, Edinburgh, Scotland (1905-1912, post card from Walter's mother) Lily's husband Walter emigrated to the U.S. in April 1912, sailing aboard the S.S. Columbia. Lily, Hilda, May and Amy followed on the S.S. Campania, arriving New York 11 August 1912. Bryant Street, North Tonawanda, New York, USA (from memory; there are post cards but I have to find them) 178 Schenck Street, North Tonawanda, New York, USA (post cards and letters) 103 Rumbold Ave, North Tonawanda, New York, USA (family correspondence and personal knowledge) Have now found: census 1915, North Tonawanda 1915 NY State census Walter Berry 40 Lily Berry 40 Hilda Berry 14 May Berry 10 Anny Berry 8 [Amy - I submitted correction] census 1920, North Tonawanda 1920 US census Walter Berry 44 Lily Berry 44 Hilda Berry 18 May Berry 15 Amy Berry 13 Elenor Frances Banks 2 [2 10/12] Ethel May Spence 42 census 1925, North Tonawanda 1925 NY State census Walter Berry 50 Lily Berry 50 Hilda Berry 24 Mary Berry 20 [May - I submitted correction to Ancestry] Amy Berry 18 Eleanor F Banks 08 census 1930, North Tonawanda 1930 US census Walter Berry 55 Lily Berry 55 May Berry 25 Amy Berry 23 census 1940, North Tonawanda 1940 US census Walter Berry 65 Lily Berry 65 May Berry 35 Date, place and cause of death 29 April 1953, North Tonawanda (church records in my possession) cause unknown Date and place of burial / cremation. unknown Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable unknown Memorial inscription - if any unknown 
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18-07-11, 08:30
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1920 - North Tenawanda Ward 2, Niagara, New York
Walter Berry 44 - Manager in General Factory Lily Berry 44 Hilda Berry 18 May Berry 15 Amy Berry 13 Elenor Frances Banks 2 [2 10/12] Boarder Ethel May Spence 42 ------------------------------------ 1930 - North Tonawanda, Niagara, New York Walter Berry 55 - Service Manager, Pipe Organs Lily Berry 55 May Berry 25 Amy Berry 23
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18-07-11, 09:10
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18-07-11, 09:26
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Well they aren't on Ancestry only 1920 and 1930 are.
I think there are voters lists for California.
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18-07-11, 18:07
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Great! Thank you, Maggie. So in 1920 Lily's sister, my mother's Auntie Ethel, had come over from England and was living with them.
Also, they already had Nellie whose mother (according to Nellie's daughter) died 8 days after childbirth of bowel blockage which could have been prevented, but there was apparently no decent medical care to be had since all the doctors were off to war. Nellie's father was obligated to go wherever he was stationed and ship out (in the U.S. Merchant Marine, I believe). Nellie grew up in the Berry family and Lily wanted to adopt her legally, but in the end Nellie's father declined and Nellie returned to her father after about a decade, when she was 12 or 13 years old. A little piece of history is illuminated. I'm sure you're right about the U.S.censuses, Kite. If 1940 is released next year that will be interesting.
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10-05-16, 05:55
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Have updated post #1 in purple.
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