Going round (and round) in circles

[Merry]

Thanks for the date for Ivy.

I'm sure I saw a merchant navy record for Louis on FMP. I'll have another look..........

[Merry]

Yep, I did. It has his photo!!

Let me know if you don't have access to the image.

[Charles]

Hi Merry,

Not sure what FMP is. Yes please would like to see his image.

Thanks

[Merry]

I've sent you a personal message.

[Charles]

I'm interested to know more about Forbes Leslie's application in 1921 for annullmenet of his marriage to Adelaide Manders/Forster/Williams and then married to Forbes Leslie in 1897. Where is this recorded? What were the grounds for nullity?

Likewise where is Adelaide's application in 1920 for a deed of separation recorded?

What is she calling herself at this time?

There is a reference to Forbes Leslie being in gaol in the 1930's. Was this following the collapse of his oil shale company? What was his offence? How long did he serve?

There is also a reference to William Forbes-Leslie marrying a Banks in 1934. Presumably the same guy.

Any answers appreciated. Thanks

Charles

[Merry]

Re the antics of William Forbes Leslie, your best bet would be to get access to Gale Newspapers. This is a site which has 200 years + of The Times Newspapers and various other newspaper collections online to browse/search.

Which country do you live in? If England then you can most likely join via your local library.

[Merry]

There is also a reference to William Forbes-Leslie marrying a Banks in 1934. Presumably the same guy.

I would imagine so.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Charles

I'm interested to know more about Forbes Leslie's application in 1921 for annullmenet of his marriage to Adelaide Manders/Forster/Williams and then married to Forbes Leslie in 1897. Where is this recorded? What were the grounds for nullity?

Likewise where is Adelaide's application in 1920 for a deed of separation recorded?

What is she calling herself at this time?

Any answers appreciated. Thanks

Charles

There are these records at The National Archives:

Court for Divorce and Matrimonial Causes, later Su... J 77/1691/2630
Divorce Court File: 2630. Appellant: Adelaide Ivy Elizabeth Forbes-Leslie. Respondent: William Forbes-Leslie. Type: Wife's petition for judicial separation [wjs]. . Divorce Court File: 2630. Appellant: Adelaide Ivy Elizabeth Forbes-Leslie. Respondent:
Date: 1920
Source: The Catalogue of The National Archives


Court for Divorce and Matrimonial Causes, later Su... J 77/1772/5255
Divorce Court File: 5255. Appellant: William Forbes-Leslie. Respondent: Adelaide Ivy Elizabeth Forbes-Leslie otherwise Adelaide Ivy Elizabeth Forster. Type: Husband's petition for/of nullity [hn]. . Divorce Court File: 5255. Appellant: William Forbes-
Date: 1921
Source: The Catalogue of The National Archives

You can order copies via their website:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.htm

Start by going to "The Catalogue" (under Records)

[Olde Crone]

Interesting!

Judicial separation was (still is) a way for a wife to get financial support and all the other benfits of marriage without having to carry out her marital dutties and/or live with her spouse.

Nullity can only be granted IF the appellant would not have married the respondent had they known a material fact about the spouse. This covered such things as a spouse exaggerating their financial position or in the case of a wife, failing to disclose that she had been previously married, or had had an illegitimate child etc. It also covered the situation where one spouse had a venereal disease.

OC

[Charles]

Adelaide Manders/ Forbes-Leslie

Hi Merry and Old Crone,

Thanks a lot for all the helpful steers and information.

Will follow them up and get back to you if anything interesting comes out of it.

Charles