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Old 10-03-12, 17:29
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Default Going round (and round) in circles

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I've been adding a twig of distant relatives to my tree and something that should have taken a couple of minutes and shouldn't be all that important, has consumed me for several days! I ought to leave it really, but can't seem to, so I need someone else to come up with the answer.

All I wanted was to find the birth details for the wife of my relative so she would appear correctly on my tree.

Here's the marriage:

Marriages Dec 1883
FOSTER Adelaide Elizabeth Kensington 1a 375 <<<<<<<<<<<<
JOYCE Rose Marie Kensington 1a 375
MANDERS Adelaide Elizabeth Kensington 1a 375 <<<<<<<<<<
SHERLOCK Edwin Charles Kensington 1a 375
WILLIAMS George Stanley Kensington 1a 375 <<<<<<<<<<<<<

and then they did it again:

Marriages Dec 1884
Forster Adelaide Elizabeth St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 846 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Manders Adelaide E St George Hanover Square 1a 846 <<<<<<<<<<
Schomberg Arthur St. Geo. H. Sq 1a 846
Williams George Stanley St.Geo. H.Sq. 1a 846 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Wilson Adah Jessie St Geo Han Sq 1a 846
Zanker Herbert St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 846

They had these sons:

Joseph Coryton Stanley Williams b 1884 (Q2 Market Bosworth district)
Vivian Dunbar Stanley Williams b 1885 (Q4 ditto)
George Gilbert Algernon Williams b 1888 (Q4 ditto)
Noel Charles Augustus Williams b. 1889 (Q1 1890 ditto)

all of whom lived to adulthood.

No sign of any of them in 1891. George Stanley Williams (b 1852 Tring, Herts) was in the army, so perhaps they went abroad?

George Stanley Williams died in 1897 (probate entry) at The Coppice, Queniborough Leic. The previous year he had divorced his wife for her adultery. Next we have this:

Marriages Mar 1897
DE VILLAUDE William Forbes L (Duc) Kensington 1a 269 <<<<<<<<<
De Villuade William Forbes L (Duc) Kensington 1a 269 <<<<<<<<<<
FLETCHER Alice Rose Kensington 1a 269
FORBES-LESLIE William (Duc de Villaude) Kensington 1a 269 <<<<<<
GOLDSON Harry Kensington 1a 269
Leslie William Forbes (Duc de Villaude) Kensington 1a 269 <<<<<<<<
Leslie William Forbes(Duc de Villaude) Kensington 1a 269 <<<<<<<<<
Manders Ada Kensington 1a 269 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Manders Adelaide Ivy E Kensington 1a 269 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Williams Ada Kensington 1a 269 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Williams Adelaide Ivy E Kensington 1a 269 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I know this was a register office wedding and that her father was recorded as Herbert Manders on the cert as just before she was jailed for fraud in 1911 (The Times) the marriage cert was discussed in court. It also mentioned that she had been divorced twice, the first time before she married Williams so presumably that was to a Mr Fo(r)ster (also in the army, so presume they married abroad, as I can't find anything in Eng/Wales). In 1911 Adelaide was aged 48 (or 49, can't see it now)

I think William Forbes-Leslie may have been another con merchant, as I became overwhelmed with 'stuff' when I googled his name and/or checked the papers!

There is a Louis Forbes-Leslie b Paris on the 1911 census who I guess might well be another child for Adelaide/Ada.

So, all I wanted was her date and place of birth as well as her maiden name (Manders?) to tidy up my tree, but instead I get all this and no answers!

And no, I'm not buying any certs because they are too distant!

Please help!!! lol

"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
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