Missing in 1861 Census

[Merry]

Who are these people in your last post, Belinda? They look like a variation of the people we have been researching, but not the same people and no Richard.

I found the marriage of Catherine to Jonathan Sawer in 1852 in Westminster and that said Catherine's father was James a mariner. I checked the 1861 census for Jonathan and Catherine Sawer to see when and where she was born - Saltash, Cornwall in about 1830. I found Catherine on the 1851 census (same place of birth etc) in Aldeburgh, Suffolk and she was with her parents - they were James Jago 46 a coastguard from Ipswich Suffolk and Jane 48 from Saltash Cornwall. James and Jane had two children born after civil registration began so I looked at their birth registrations (George 1840 Isle of Wight and James 1843 Romney Marsh) and they both had mmn Blake, so as you said, most likely the parents were the couple who married in 1827 in Plymouth.

But I don't know why you are looking at this family if you are descended from Richard Curtis Blake bap 1832?

[Belinda]

I think I am getting confused with the Blake / Jago mix. I know Richard was born before Anne & Johns marriage . I will right down everything you have said . Thanks you so much

[Merry]

If you mean Richard was born before John and JANE married (not Ann) - I don't think John and Jane ever married. John was married to Jane's mother from 1829 until her death in 1847. No sign of a marriage between John and Jane after that.

In any case, marrying a step-parent was forbidden, so John and Jane would not have been able to marry anywhere they were known. I expect this was the main reason they didn't marry, even if John was the father of Jane's younger children.

[PJM]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Someone on Ancestry appears to think that a John Mitchell in Cardiff, born Fowey, is one and the same as Joseph Kendall Blake.

So far as I can see, this individual first married as John Murton Mitchell to Jane Howard in 1863. But he's a mariner, rather than an ag lab, so I think it must be pin sticking, without proof.

That family tree is my mums one, Joseph Blake (John Mitchell) is my great grandfather. He never married Jane Howard. My family have been holidaying in Fowey for 125 years, my great grandmother stayed with Caroline. There's a family story as to why he changed his name. I am DNA related to descendents of both Isaac, Edwin and Richard. Plus other branches of the Blakes.

[ElizabethHerts]

Originally Posted by PJM

That family tree is my mums one, Joseph Blake (John Mitchell) is my great grandfather. He never married Jane Howard. My family have been holidaying in Fowey for 125 years, my great grandmother stayed with Caroline. There's a family story as to why he changed his name. I am DNA related to descendents of both Isaac, Edwin and Richard. Plus other branches of the Blakes.

Welcome to GF.

Thanks for the explanation. It's great that you have DNA verification.

I shall have to look at this again as I have forgotten the details.

[PJM]

Originally Posted by ElizabethHerts

Welcome to GF.

Thanks for the explanation. It's great that you have DNA verification.

I shall have to look at this again as I have forgotten the details.

I email back and forth with a Blake in Australia, not sure of you know him, he's done a lot on the Blakes as well. I never really bothered adding my own tree on ancestry, but have started one. My mums tree is pretty good though, but think i need to make some changes. If you have uploaded your DNA, confirmation will be if we are a match. Cheers

[ElizabethHerts]

I am not connected with this family but I researched it as a favour for someone.

I am an OPC (online parish clerk) for a parish in Cornwall. We transcribe records and have a very large database. I was approached by someone to help with their research.

Here is the website:
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/home/