John Quigley & Catherine McClannan

[Murphy]

I am trying to get more information on my paternal gg.grandparents above. Specifically when and where in Ireland they were born.
I've tried searching in Dublin Archives - but, based on the info I have below, the staff there suggested trying to find the marriage records in England.
That's where I'm struggling, as I haven't been able to find one so far.

Name -
John Quigley & Catherine MacClannan

Date and place of birth - both Ireland, places unknown - John c.1815 Catherine c.1826

Names of parents - unknown

Date and place of baptism - unknown

Details of each of his or her marriages -

1 John Quigley & Margaret Quigley are shown in the 1841 Census living at Back Chester Street, Birkenhead. Both born Ireland.
Children listed - Patrick Headin 13, Bridget Headin 8, Catherine Headin 6, Michael Headin 4 & Mary Ann Quigley 1.
The three eldest born in Ireland - Michael & Mary Ann born Birkenhead.
Margaret's previously married name was Headin (Heden) - the 4 named children being hers by another marriage, plus her child Mary Ann with John Quigley.
Her maiden name is shown on Mary Ann's BCert. 18 Oct 1939.

2 John Quigley & Catherine Quigley (McClannan) - both born Ireland.
In 1851 Census living at 5, No.8 Court, New Bird Street, Liverpool
Children - Mary Ann 11, Margaret 2, Arthur 1 - all born Birkenhead

Occupation(s) - Shoemaker / Cordwainer

Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on.

1839 Back Chester St., Birkenhead - BC of Mary Ann Quigley 18 Oct 1839
1841 Census - Back Chester St., Birkenhead (as above)
1851 Census - 5, No.8 Court, New Bird St., Liverpool (as above)
1844 - 13 Jan 1844 Back Chester St., Birkenhead - DC of first wife Margaret Quigley Qtr. Mar Vol 19 Page 240
1849 - 4 May 1849 Back Chester St., Birkenhead - BC of son Arthur Quigley Qtr. Apr Vol 19 Page 397

I haven't found them in 1861,1871 or 1881 Censuses

Date, place and cause of death -

13 Jan1844 Margaret Quigley (Headin) - Back Chester St., Birkenhead. Cause - Childbed (assuming in childbirth) aged 39
25 Dec 1873 John Quigley aged 58 - 352 Price Street, Birkenhead - phthisis DC Qtr Dec Vol 8a Page 292

Date and place of burial / cremation.

Margaret Quigley (Headin) - unknown
Catherine Quigley (McClannan) - unknown
John Quigley - 29 Dec 1873 Birkenhead Flaybrick Cemetery - public grave

Details of will / administration of their estate - unknown

Memorial inscription - none

[ElizabethHerts]

There is another child, Bridget, found in the Catholic Registers on Ancestry:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...922.1559313263

Name: Bridget Quigley
Age: 0
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1858
Baptism Date: 14 Nov 1858
Baptism Place: St Mary's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

GRO reference:

QUIGLEY, BRIDGET MCCLANNEN
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in WIRRAL Volume 08A

[ElizabethHerts]

Another child:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...922.1559313263

Name: Catharine Quigley
Age: 0
Birth Date: 11 Jun 1851
Baptism Date: 29 Jun 1851
Baptism Place: St Patrick, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Search Photos: Search for 'Liverpool' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: John Quigley
Mother: Catharine Mclenon


GRO referenence:
QUIGLEY, CATHERINE MCLENNAN
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 20 Page 554

[ElizabethHerts]

QUIGLEY, ARTHUR MCCLANNAN
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in WIRRAL UNION Volume 19 Page 397



Twins?

QUIGLEY, JOHN MCLENNON
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 158

QUIGLEY, MARGARET MCLENNON
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 159

[ElizabethHerts]

Baptisms for Margaret and John:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...46427853/facts

John's godmother was Esther Mclanagan. A sister or other relative of Catherine, his mother?

Margaret's godmother was Maria (Mary) Quigley. I wonder what relative she was?

[Murphy]

That's great Elizabeth, thank you !
The Catherine certainly looks promising - though is it 1851 or 1857 ?
The Bridget one also - though I notice the MMN is given as McClannighan.....only slightly different (especially as the g is silent in Ireland when spoken). So maybe the family lived in Liverpool for quite a while before moving back to Birkenhead later before John died.

[ElizabethHerts]

Here they are in 1871:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...1%2F0018709068

350 Price Street, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
John 60 Boot Maker born Ireland
Catherine 47 no place of birth given but it might be that she was also born in Ireland
Arthur Son 19 Apprentice Boiler Maker born Birkenhead
Catherine Daughter 16 Domestic Servant born Liverpool
John Son 14 Scholar Liverpool
Bridget Daughter 13 Birkenhead

[ElizabethHerts]

They are transcribed as Tingley for 1871 on Ancestry:

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

[Murphy]

Wow, that's amazing Elizabeth - twins, I never thought of that !
The only thing I'm a bit doubtfull about is that John & Catherine already had a daughter called Margaret, born c.1848.....so, could she have died ?

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by Murphy

Wow, that's amazing Elizabeth - twins, I never thought of that !
The only thing I'm a bit doubtfull about is that John & Catherine already had a daughter called Margaret, born c.1848.....so, could she have died ?

There is a Margaret Quigley death Jan-Mar 1852 Liverpool age 5.