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Old 21-08-11, 11:14
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Okay, the Banham baptism in 1794 is definitely for a John who was born 21 Nov 1794, it is in the Archdeacon's Transcripts on FamilySearch. Can you say where the name Allen appears later on in your tree, please, Babs, as I'm not sure this is the right baptism for John jr?
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Old 21-08-11, 11:25
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Phew right will go have a look now they have gone home and peace reigns for 2 mins
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Old 21-08-11, 11:43
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Right for some reason my tree has been doubled up from John I have the one I have and posted the other has

john Murton

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/428...on/-1543930929


John MurtonBirth 1788
Shelfhanger, Norfolk
Death
Family Info
Father Peter Murton (1758-)
Mother Frances Spargo (1758-)
Spouse Ann Turner-Scott (1789-)
Married 1809
Children Stephen (1819-1895)
David (1826-)
Fisher (1827-1915)
William (1832-) Mary (1840-)


Sorry Kate doesnt look like I have saved the souces for the other Allens ;;

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Old 21-08-11, 11:59
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Looking at the Peter Murton / Frances Spargo public trees on ancestry, that bit looks unlikely. I'll have a look later and see if I can figure anything out.
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Old 21-08-11, 12:22
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I k now I followed one before but then me and Polly got mail on GR from someone who said it went back to a Cornwall line and for us to remove from our trees as she lived down there and had researched extensively
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Old 21-08-11, 17:27
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I'm getting confused now - do you know why you have Ann (John jr's wife) down as Ann Turner-Scott? I've only found a few of their children's baptisms online but they all list her just as Ann Turner.

Stephen baptised 27 Feb 1820 Shelfanger All Saints, parents John Murton and Ann Turner, father's occupation labourer
John baptised 28 Apr 1824 Shelfanger Baptist, parents John Murton and Ann Turner
Fisher baptised 16 Oct 1826 Shelfanger Baptist, parents John Murton and Ann Turner.
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Old 21-08-11, 17:39
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And Norfolk Baptism Project lists two more baptised at Shelfanger All Saints under the surname Murtin - both baptised 29 Jul 1832, William and Robert, parents John and Ann, but it doesn't give Ann's maiden name on those.
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Old 21-08-11, 18:03
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I wonder whether this family is related to John? They are the household just before John and Ann on the 1841 census:
Robert Murton 50 Ag Lab Y
Susan Do 45 Y
Robert Do 12 Y
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Mary Reeder 25 Y
William Do Y
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Old 21-08-11, 18:12
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In case it is any help, this is Robert Murton in 1851 at Street, Shelfanger:
Robert Murton Head Mar 60 Agricultural Labr Shelfanger Norfolk
Susan Do Wife Mar 57 Tackelstone Norfolk.
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I have Robert b 1832 living with wife Rebecca at Diss norfolk ???
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