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Old 27-07-16, 11:15
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I'm afraid this is another "please don't run away" moment in the search for my

Headland roots. I need to rule out this man as possible contender for 4xg/

grandfather Isaac Headland - Isaac, son of John & Catherine Headland bap

Welbourn, Lincolnshire 14 Aug 1745.John & Catherine seem to have had

another son named Isaac bap 1739 who probably died.

I don't have any subs at the moment so would be most grateful if someone

could see anything relating to Isaac 1745 which would eliminate him.

My Isaac was in London by 1776 when he married Sarah Trenley at

St George, Hanover Square. Thread 'A Stubborn Brick Wall' refers, but I won't

blame you for not going there(!)

I have details of their six children, born around Middx/Herts/Bucks.

In 1792 Isaac was bankrupt & described as a carpenter, chapman & general

dealer of Uxbridge.

In 1800 Sarah's Pauper Settlement Statement says that he had rented a

house in Tottenham Place, London, for four years but had since left it.

(not sure whether that means he had done a runner or just relocated the

family)

Apart from a 1797 appearance as witness at a family wedding at St. Botolph

Aldgate, that is all I know about Isaac - I've no idea where he came from or

what happened to him. Actually that's not quite accurate - I believe he may

have been from Lincs from something my father said many years ago & also

because a lot of Isaac Headlands seem to originate from the

Welbourn/Potterhanworth areas of that county.

I keep coming back to Isaac but never seem to get anywhere, so I think the

time may have come for a little expert guidance.

Thanks in anticipation.
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Old 27-07-16, 15:57
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I don't think can eliminate the 1745 Isaac. I came across this, Isaac is recorded as being a debtor on the actual document:


Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Piece number 178
Series PCOM2
Source Newgate Prison, London: lists of felons (prisoners) on the Master's Side
First name(s) Isaac
Last name Headland
Court session year 1793
Birth year -
Conviction date 1793
Archive The National Archives
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
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It's quicker to post these things than to try and work out if you already have them!

London Lives, Culture & Society 1680-1817

First name(s) Isaac
Last name Headland
Gender Male
Year 1800
Entry date 16 Jun 1800
Extract } to wit Sarah Headland Aged about 45 years upon her Oath Saith That about 23 years ago She intermarried with Isaac Headland her present Husband at the Parish Church of Saint George Hanover Square by whom she has livi ......
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Source St Clement Danes parish records
Document Pauper Examination Books/Examination Books
Document date range start 04 Jan 1799
Document date range end 31 Dec 1800
Archive reference B1193
Archive Westminster Archives Centre
Record set London Lives, Culture & Society 1680-1817
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Social history
Collections from Great Britain
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Old 27-07-16, 16:24
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Oh thanks Merry - didn't know he was in Newgate! I'm just writing about that - it was

notorious. Whitecross, where my later Headlands were incarcerated, was built after

public denouncement of the conditions at Newgate.

I did have the settlement details, but thanks anyway. Just wish I could find out where he

came from & what happened to him.
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Old 27-07-16, 16:52
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Do you have a burial for his wife?
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Afraid not. Kite did find a burial for a Sarah Headland 1821 but the age was wrong.
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Old 27-07-16, 19:46
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In case you didn't have it, he was in St Pancras in 1798, according to the Land Tax records on Ancestry:

Proprietor: Lord Southampton
Tenant: Isaac Headland
Residence: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Year: 1798
Volume: 4

The street address appears to be Cross over; the previous address in the register is Tottenham Place, and the next one is Southampton Court.
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Old 27-07-16, 20:05
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Do you know where the six children settled? I'm just trying to establish which area the parents may have died, given there don't seem to be burials for them in London. I presume that when the parents were in London around 1800 the children were already adult?
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Son Thomas b 1786 (my 3xg/grandfather) settled in London but was born & spent time in

Uxbridge. William b 1787 also settled in Uxbridge. Robert b 1789 settled in Marlborough,

Wilts. I'll have to check up on daughter Ann.
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Old 27-07-16, 20:55
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I think daughter Ann m Richard Castell 1808. They married in London but I don't know

where they settled.

And Mary - thanks for the info. It matches what Sarah says in her Pauper Settlement

statement.
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Old 27-07-16, 21:16
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At the 1808 marriage Richard is a widower of St Geo Hanover Sq. There is a Richard Castell listed as a tenant in the London, England, Land Tax Records, 1692-1932 in the same parish every year from 1808 until 1817 and then one separate entry in 1827. I would imagine at least the run of dates are all for your Richard.
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