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Old 11-02-16, 06:28
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Thanks it's all confusing , I am going to log it all down . Then I can get it straight in my mind .
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Old 11-02-16, 07:27
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Hi , on the same thread , I am trying to find out what Mary Ecclestons name was before marriage ., was she also from the same area . I have looked on the BMD for the names of the children but it does not state the mothers maiden name . All I can go on his a marriage . But there is two marriages of William Eccleston , one in 1843 to a Mary , the other in 1846 in the st Helens area . Thanks
The 1843 marriage is to Elizabeth Marsh (I looked at Lancs OPC). The 1846 marriage is to Mary Lester:

Marriage: 29 Aug 1846 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
William Eccleston - (X), Full, Collier, Bachelor, Windle
Mary Lester - (X), Full, Spinster, Windle
Groom's Father: Thomas Eccleston, Collier
Bride's Father: George Lester, Collier
Witness: William Nailor, (X); Elizabeth Beetle, (X)
Married by Banns by: L. Parker Snow
Register: Marriages 1845 - 1854, Page 21, Entry 42
Source: LDS Film 1657597

I did check that William and Mary were a couple in 1861 and 1851 before considering this marriage. In 1851 Mary's details were b 1825, at Sutton which matches with this baptism (and the father's details match with the marriage record to William Eccleston):

Baptism: 21 Aug 1825 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England
Mary Leicester - Daughter of George Leicester & Elizabeth
Abode: Sutton
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: T. Pigot
Register: Baptisms 1824 - 1833 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [32], Entry 251
Source: LDS Film 1469036

It would still be sensible to purchase the birth cert for one of the children to confirm the mmn.

Elizabeth is 14 months old in 1851 so this birth reg may be her:


Births Mar 1850
Eccleston Elizabeth Ann Prescott 20 784

Looks hopeful as that birth reg fits with this bap:

Baptism: 27 Jan 1850 St Mary, St Helens, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Ann Eccleston - Daughter of William Eccleston & Mary
Abode: St. Helens
Occupation: Collier
Notes: [The surname appears to have been overwritten and could be Eccleston or
Edleston. Evidence from the civil register suggests the name should be Eccleston.]
Baptised by: Edward Carr
Register: Baptisms 1846 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Entry 2241
Source: LDS Film 1469036
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Bearkins, William Henry Eccleston was illegitimate because Elizabeth was unmarried when he was born, and that is why he had his mother's surname (Eccleston) but he was baptised as the son of Henry and Elizabeth Burrows when he was 3 months old, although Henry and Elizabeth were not married to each other yet. So it looks likely that Henry was his father, not just his stepfather, but not definite.
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Hi , kiterunner , I was wondering if we can trace Henry burrows birth ? Thanks
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Henry is aged 3 in 1851.

This looks like the marriage of his mother to James Dixon:

Marriage: 15 Sep 1850 St Thomas, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
James Dixon - (X), 23, Miner, Bachelor, Eccleston
Alice Burrows - (X), 26, Spinster, Eccleston
Groom's Father: John Wills, Watchmaker
Bride's Father: William Burrows, Miner
Witness: John Burrows; Ellen Makin, (X)
Married by Banns by: G. Thornton Mostyn Incumbent
Register: Marriages 1841 - 1858, Page 76, Entry 152
Source: LDS Film 1849656

So it looks like Henry was illegitimate. This is the best fit birth registration, though there are others if his age was a little inaccurate:

BURROWS, HENRY
mmn -
GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 20 Page 880
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Sorry, I muscled in as Kate wasn't online, but she is now
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Thanks, Merry!
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Yes , I agree , I have found a few births , of a Henry around 1848 1849 . Going by the age on the census . One was in Warrington and the other Prescot . I have looked on Lancashire bmd , but some of the entry's have no mmn to confirm .so it's difficult .
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Yes I agree it could be the right birth . I could get the certificate .
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