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16-12-25, 22:48
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What the heck is it?
Okay, I know who it is, but what the heck is this object, please?
It's just a hair over 7.5 inches wide by 4.5 inches tall (fits in an old cigar box).    Made primarily of metal, engraved with his birth and death dates. The border I think might be carved in wood, except for the four corners that are metallic. Photos are of front and back. Plus a couple little doodads that might belong with it (for attaching to... what?). They're an inch long and 1/4 inch wide. Hope my links work. Anyone? Thanks. 
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16-12-25, 23:19
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Um, a wild guess.....It's the name plaque from a cremation urn, or a marker for the burial of a cremation urn. Might have had a picture in it.
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17-12-25, 01:20
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OK, thanks, OC. I was thinking something like that but had never heard of such a thing. My wild guess at least has the distinction of somewhat matching yours.
Anyone else? Surely this can't be the only example in history of whatever this is...?
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17-12-25, 05:58
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Are there any online undertakers catalogues?
It looks like a standard design. The screws suggest it was designed to be attached to wood. What is its provenance? Do you know the last resting place of the person concerned? It could come from a memorial wall but that seems the wrong sort of material to be easily read
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17-12-25, 17:06
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Yes indeed, Libby, by marriage anyway. Myron Orton Jr. (above) is one of Jesse F. Orton's uncles. Jesse was Helen's husband.
Phoenix, thanks. An Ancestry tree has a newspaper clipping labeled myron_orton_jr_1831_The_Buffalo_Enquirer_Tue__Feb_ 19__1901_ showing that he died in Wilson, NY, near Pekin where he was born.  I see reference on Find-a-Grave, however, that he had been out to Michigan although beginning and ending his life in Niagara County, New York. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...25/myron-orton "Myron was the tenth of eleven children born to Myron and Mary (Hoit) Orton. A life long resident of Niagara County, the farmer married Elizabeth Caroline Mudge on October 13, 1859 in Newfane. They had two children. Elizabeth died when their daughter was about seven and their son about five. About four years later, he wed his second wife, Susan Armenia Wilcox on February 26, 1871 in Lincoln, Isabella Co., Michigan. They lived in Cambria, then Wilson and had two more children." EDIT: Hunting in vain for undertakers' catalogs or funeral supplies of the 1901 era. Last edited by Janet; 17-12-25 at 18:00.
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17-12-25, 21:41
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I wonder if the Mudge person is related to Lawrie’s Mudge family, originally from Devon, UK.
There was a show about an Edwardian farm on TV and a Mr Mudge was one of the people the cast went to for help. Mr Mudge was the image of Lawrie’s grandfather. I should research more.
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17-12-25, 22:53
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Mudge is a fine old Cornish name. My previous landlord (now a friend) is a Mudge.
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17-12-25, 23:18
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We saw that show, Libby! At least, if it's the one with Ruth Goodman, Peter Ginn and Alex Langlands. That whole series was wonderful.
I think it's a case of "close but no cigar" though for Lawrie's family and mine. A quick search points me toward Wiltshire for Betsey Mudge's family, rather than Devon. Not a world away, but in those days probably too far to consider. Nice thought, though! Thanks for that tidbit, OC. I'm learning things!
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