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Old 26-02-10, 16:45
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Default Mary Ann Schofield (FMMM)

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Mary Ann Schofield

Date and place of birth
About 1834, Manchester, Lancashire

Names of parents
Father: John Schofield, spinner
Mother: Jane (unknown)


Date and place of baptism - if applicable
(possibly) 20th July 1834, Manchester Cathedral, Lancashire

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
Married to William Grimshaw on 25th December 1852 at Manchester Cathedral, Lancashire

Occupation(s) - if any
1851: servant
1861: none


Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on.
1834: Fleet St., Manchester
1841: Fleet St., Manchester
1851: 11 Myrtle St., Hulme, Manchester
1852: 2 Syer's Court, Bootle Street, Manchester
1861: 13 Seddons Court, Hulme, Manchester
1865: 11 Warwick St., Bradford,Yorkshire


Date, place and cause of death
Died on 3rd April 1865 at 11 Warwick St., Bradford, Yorkshire.
Cause of death: phthisis, 6 weeks.


Date and place of burial / cremation.
Not known

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
None known

Memorial inscription - if any
None known

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Old 26-02-10, 17:20
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Mary, is her father definitely John? (from marriage certificate?)
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There is this family on the 1841 census in Manchester, but it looks as though the adults are the grandparents:

John SCHOFIELD M 65 1776 Lancashire
Ann F 55 1786 Lancashire
Charlotte F 25 1816 Lancashire
Alice F 15 1826 Lancashire
Mary Ann F 7 1834 Lancashire
Sarah F 5 1836 Lancashire
Eliza F 4 1837 Lancashire

RG number: HO107 Piece: 572 Book/Folio: 12/23 Page: 40

They live at China Lane.
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Old 26-02-10, 17:47
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Yes, it's John Schofield, spinner on the marriage cert.

I'm not 100% sure that I have the right baptism, but the details fit. Someone from FTF kindly looked it up for me in the PRs; the address given is Fleet St., Manchester, and the father's occupation is spinner. However, Schofield is a very common name in Lancs, and spinner is a pretty common occupation.

It looks as though John died before 1851. These are the censuses I have:

1851: Jane (widow) and Mary Ann are living in Myrtle St., Hulme. Jane's a charwoman and Mary Ann's a servant.
HO107; Piece: 2221; Folio: 923; Page: 15

1861: Mary Ann is now married to William Grimshaw, and they're living in Hulme with their 5 children, Mary Ann's mother Jane Schofield, and a mysterious uncle, John Hindle. I was hoping he'd turn out to be Jane's brother, but I can't find a Jane Hindle/John Schofield marriage. Hindle and Grimshaw are also very common Lancs names; he may have married one of William's father's sisters, but I haven't found a marriage so far.
Class: RG9; Piece: 2896; Folio: 84; Page: 43

1871: Mary Ann had died; William had remarried:
Class: RG10; Piece: 4459; Folio: 26; Page: 3
and I think this may be Jane, although the family she's visiting doesn't ring any bells:
Class: RG10; Piece: 3991; Folio: 62; Page: 51

I haven't found a death for Jane; there are just too many Jane Schofields in Lancs.

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Old 26-02-10, 18:09
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I've just found this one on the 1841 census which looks more promising:

John Schofield M 50 1791 Lancashire
Jane F 40 1801 Lancashire
Ann F 20 1821 Lancashire
Martha F 10 1831 Lancashire
Mary F 7 1834 Lancashire
John Holt M 30 1811 Lancashire
Margt Holt F 30 1811 Lancashire
Mary Handford F 70 1771 Lancashire
Elizabeth Handford F 40 1801 Lancashire

RG number: HO107 Piece: 570 Book/Folio: 15/10 Page: 15

LOOK WHERE THEY LIVE:


Civil Parish: Manchester Municipal Borough: Manchester
Address: Fleet Street, Manchester
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Ooh! I missed that one! Off to look...
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I'm not sure about this, but it's worth a look:

John Schofield married Jane Clayton
Manchester Cathedral
3 Feb 1827
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See 1841 census entry I gave in previous post:

Martha Clayton or Schofield
baptised 1 Jul 1825
Manchester Cathedral
Parents: John Schofield and Jane Clayton
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Brilliant, I do believe you've cracked it - that John's a spinner, too.

I've been looking for these guys for years!

It took me ages to find, even with the reference you gave - Ancestry has them transcribed as Schafred. I'd tried a load of wildcard searches in the past, but evidently not the right one.

I hadn't found any siblings for Mary Ann, either, so the ones you've found may lead to more information

Thanks very much
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Ah, that marriage looks good, too.

It was one of the many possibilities I'd found, but with not having the siblings' names, I had no idea if it was the right one.

I owe you one
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I'm using FMP.

I hope you have seen my next post!
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