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This looks to be Thomas Smith in 1901:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/78...nSearchResults

When I looked at it earlier, I thought it was a different Thomas because of the occupation, but now looking at the landlady's name and birthplace, I think it is probably the right Thomas.

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Benjamin C Pritchard Head M 38 Laundry Proprietor Hants Basingstoke
Edith M Do Wife M 37 Do Do Berks Reading
Thomas Smith Boarder Widr 51 Tree Feller Oxon Cropdury

Benjamin Charles Pritchard and Edith Maude Gosling married Jan-Mar 1892 Basingstoke.
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As someone else asked, I just wanted to clear up a few possible issues re identity: http://www.familytreeforum.com/showt...=1#post2554573

Not much use in finding out about her birth, though.
Sorry, I don't quite get what you mean, James. Do you mean you aren't interested in tracing her parents back? I think in a case like this, it's best to follow all leads and possible lines as far as possible, in case you find something on one of them which confirms you have the right family.

For instance, if we manage to find anything to prove that Thomas French became Thomas Smith, it would make it very likely that Ellen French Smith is your Charlotte Ellen.
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Sorry, you misunderstand me, I meant that my post linked to above may not be much use in finding out about her birth, not that I wasn't interested in doing so!
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Can anybody find Thomas Smith born about 1850 in Cropredy, Oxfordshire, before the 1871 census, or Thomas French born same date, same place, after the 1861 census? I haven't been able to. I did find another Thomas French of about the same age (a little bit older) in 1871 but I also found that one in 1851 so not him.

Of course Thomas French could have died young; there is a possible death in 1864 before age was shown on the death index. But apart from that, I can't find anything to prove that Thomas French didn't change his name to Smith.
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Sorry, you misunderstand me, I meant that my post linked to above may not be much use in finding out about her birth, not that I wasn't interested in doing so!
Oh right, thanks for the explanation.
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Anyway, going back to searching for birth regs for Ellen's sisters:

Rose / Rosa (Rosa age 9 on the 1881 census, but baptised as Rose according to FamilySearch)
There is a birth reg for a Rose Smith Apr-Jun 1872 Reading district, shown as St Mary sub-district on Berkshire BMD. I can't find an alternative baptism for her. So this could well be the right birth reg.

Anne (Anne age 5 in 1881, Annie age 16 in 1891, baptised as Annie Maria according to FamilySearch. Must have been born before 17 Feb 1876 as that is the baptism date)
The only possible birth reg I can see for her is Maria Annie F Smith Jan-Mar 1876 Reading (St Mary sub-district on Berkshire BMD.) I wonder whether the F stands for French?! Again, I don't see another baptism for this Maria.

I will try to trace Rose and Annie forwards to see whether we get any clues from that.
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The 1901 census has a Rose Smith age 19, born Reading, as a servant in Frimley, Surrey:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/65...nSearchResults

And this could be Anne in 1911:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/23...nSearchResults
Annie Maria Smith, single, 35, boarding house proprietor in Littlehampton, Sussex, born Reading, Berks, St Mary's.

No clues.
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Could well be her, as she was baptized Annie Maria in 1876.
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This is Annie in 1901:
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Did you read post #41 yet, Merry? Do you think she could be Edith Mary?
I think there's a very good chance she is.
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