Limerick born Grandmother Ellen O'Connor

I have been looking at Electoral Rolls on Ancestry and while it says that it starts in 1903 it seems to me to start mainly from 1930. Am I wrong?

I was interested today to receive the following from Carol Baxter regarding NSW State Electoral Rolls and even the confusion regarding their location at the state library:

AUSSIE ADVICE: STATE ELECTORAL ROLLS

The Commonwealth Electoral Rolls have been available for two or three decades on microfiche. These (aka Federal) Electoral Rolls have now been digitised by Ancestry.com 1903-1980.

However, the NSW State Electoral Rolls, most researchers don’t know about them.

Some voting lists have survived for the 1840s, 1850s and early 1860s—usually intermittent and incomplete. By 1869, however, when this main record series begins, most men were eligible to vote. Accordingly, these returns serve as a pseudo census of adult males in a district. Even better, the lists were made every two or three years, and sometimes more frequently.

The lists for 1869-1900 are available on microfilm in the NSW State Library’s Family History Centre. The early years list - name, residence and voting qualification (eg. residence, freehold) and from 1894, occupation was added.

The NSW State Electoral Rolls for the post-Federation years have not been microfilmed, but are available in book form at the NSW State Library. From 1903 to 1917, they are located at call number DQ324.242/1; and from 1919 to 1929 (incomplete) at DS324.242/3.
To determine the relevant electorate, go to the book stack above the 1869-1900 micro-film drawer, look for the volume titled NSW Electoral Rolls Divisions Index Pre-1930 (NQ324.944/1), and find the relevant town. For example, Mudgee, was in the ‘Mudgee’ state electorate (federally, ‘Robertson’).

Then fill out an order slip, noting, in the appropriate boxes, the series name—NSW State Electoral Rolls—the electorate, the time-frame and the call number, and hand it in at the main ordering desk.

If the staff tell you that the post-1900 electoral rolls are on microfiche in the Family History Centre, you will know what to answer.

Helpfully, the Family History Centre also holds microfiche for electoral rolls for some of the other pre-Federation states: Victoria (1851, 1856, 1899), Queensland (1860-1900) and South Australia (1884-1900).

For these and the other Australian states, the post-1901 state electoral rolls might survive in their own state libraries. For anyone researching families from across the water, the Family History Centre also holds New Zealand rolls for 1853- 1981.

This is my (Julies) Summary from www.carolbaxter.com - the family history detective website.

[kiterunner]

If you scroll down a bit on the search page there is full information about which years are included for which states, Julie:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1207

And this is the link to the older NSW e rolls (1842-1864):
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1310

Thanks Kate that explains that Ancestry only has NSW from 1930. I wonder why they don't have from 1900 to 1930 when they have them for Qld? They also don't seem to realize that they only have the Federal Electoral Rolls and not the State. One is for the Senate and one is for the House of Reps. I thought they were the same (as do most people) but apparently not so. Carol Baxter has been involved with the production of the books for the NSW Musters etc and is no light weight in this field, so I will be interested when I am next at the State Library to see what I can uncover. Julie

[Macbev]

W.A. has pre-Federation electoral rolls in the Battye Library, a few dating back as far as 1832 http://slwa.wa.gov.au/find/guides/wa...lectoral_rolls

[colray2e]

My Grandmother, was Katie O’Connor and my Father, Michael Toohey and his Tin brother, James, were born in 1909 and Doreen born 1912, but died at a young age. Cornelius Toohey was married to Catherine ( Katie) in Sydney in 1892 and he cut Sandstone blocks, at Carlton and moved them by Wheelbarrow, to the land he had purchased , in Webbers Rd. Carlton. Webber was German born and after / during WW1, the Rd. was changed to Willison Rd. He and Katie started a Dairy business and also bought land, in Bexley and had a Dairy there also. Cornelius passed away in 1922 and Katie , who had 11 children, had her elder sons to help her with the Dairy work. The NSW Govt. Purchased the Bexley, Dairy land, for State Housing and ‘Toohey Crescent’ was named, in her honour. Michael (Mick ) & James (Jim) became ‘Milkman’ delivering milk in the Bexley area, from horse n carts to Milk Trucks.
I have a photo of a 1931 Calendar with P. Toohey Registered Dairyman, Dromore Dairy
Iliffe St. Bexley . This P. Toohey was Katie’s eldest son, Patrick and Dromore was also the name given to the sandstone home, built by Cornelius, in 1892 and still standing today

[ElizabethHerts]

Originally Posted by colray2e

My Grandmother, was Katie O’Connor and my Father, Michael Toohey and his Tin brother, James, were born in 1909 and Doreen born 1912, but died at a young age. Cornelius Toohey was married to Catherine ( Katie) in Sydney in 1892 and he cut Sandstone blocks, at Carlton and moved them by Wheelbarrow, to the land he had purchased , in Webbers Rd. Carlton. Webber was German born and after / during WW1, the Rd. was changed to Willison Rd. He and Katie started a Dairy business and also bought land, in Bexley and had a Dairy there also. Cornelius passed away in 1922 and Katie , who had 11 children, had her elder sons to help her with the Dairy work. The NSW Govt. Purchased the Bexley, Dairy land, for State Housing and ‘Toohey Crescent’ was named, in her honour. Michael (Mick ) & James (Jim) became ‘Milkman’ delivering milk in the Bexley area, from horse n carts to Milk Trucks.
I have a photo of a 1931 Calendar with P. Toohey Registered Dairyman, Dromore Dairy
Iliffe St. Bexley . This P. Toohey was Katie’s eldest son, Patrick and Dromore was also the name given to the sandstone home, built by Cornelius, in 1892 and still standing today

I know that Tenterfield Julie would have been excited to read your post and I know she would have contacted you. Sadly, she died in 2022. She loved researching her family and her late husband's family.

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by ElizabethHerts

I know that Tenterfield Julie would have been excited to read your post and I know she would have contacted you. Sadly, she died in 2002. She loved researching her family and her late husband's family.

Don't you mean 2022, Elizabeth?

[ElizabethHerts]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Don't you mean 2022, Elizabeth?

Yes, thanks Kate. A typo in a hurry. Ignoring my own advice about reading through before posting.

[Janet]

It's lovely to remember Julie and her unceasing, painstaking pursuit of family history insights. Julie is much missed here, colray2e, and I'm so very sorry you missed her but thank you for bringing new light to her story.

I wondered if I might find an image of your '1931 Calendar with P. Toohey Registered Dairyman, Dromore Dairy' and what I found was this (image on page 45).

Mapping the Toohey Family

I'm quite impressed with that beautiful presentation. Did you have a hand in it perhaps?