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#31
31-03-15, 18:19
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Scotland's People has the birth reg of an Elizabeth Black at Crossmichael in 1886.
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#32
31-03-15, 18:25
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Oh my!!! I purchased the file. Ill send it now
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#33
31-03-15, 19:03
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My email is broken at the moment.
 Is Elizabeth's mother Mary?
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#34
31-03-15, 19:22
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It looks that way yes . I also decided to search a george black and would you believe it , there she pops up. illegitimate again in 1881. So i searched george aged 9 in the 1891 census , hes listed as granson aged 9 but with a grandaughter aged 12 called mary black. So ive no idea if once again shes had another. I have sent the files over . Im not sure on the grandparents names John someone
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#35
31-03-15, 19:35
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If Kite's e-mail still isn't working you can send me the files and I'll have a go at deciphering the names. I'll PM you my address.
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#36
31-03-15, 20:04
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Ive sent them to you also Mary. It may need looking through again. George Black was the only george black around that age. But a sister called Mary would mean -Mum Mary would of had her when she was 14??? And why do the first 2 live with grandparents yet the younger 2 with somebody else. I wasnt expecting anything so complicated but i thank you Kate for helping so much. Its been years of wonder on Davids history , not even my great nan knew anything about her dad as obviously he died in the war when she was young.
There were rumours he was brought up by a nanny paid by some rich man who was the dad , that he ran to cork. But we know now he was posted there.
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#37
31-03-15, 20:29
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I've e-mailed you the details; so according to the 1891 census the grandparents were John Thom, 64, born Colvend?, Kirkcudbright, quarryman, and his wife Margaret Thom, 64, born Tongland, Kirkcudbright. Mary and George are both shown as born at Girthon, Kirkcudbright. The family were living at Midpark, Crossmichael.
There's no maiden name shown for Mary on the birth certs, so I assume Black was her birth surname. Which presumably means that either John and Margaret Thom were the children's father's parents, or Margaret Thom previously had the surname Black. Last edited by Mary from Italy; 31-03-15 at 20:35.
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#38
31-03-15, 20:38
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In 1871 John Thom, 48, quarryman, born Colvend, Kirkcudbrightshire, was living at Midpark, Crossmichael, with his mother and numerous children, including Mary Thom, 13.
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#39
31-03-15, 20:40
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In 1881 he's still at Midpark, now with wife Margaret, son Angus Thom and granddaughter Mary Black, aged 2.
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#40
31-03-15, 20:47
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In 1861 he's in Crossmichael with his first wife Janet and 4 children.
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