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Old 07-09-22, 08:35
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Only two to go now! Horace Duke and Charles Moore. There are two Horace Duke's with only one birth reg, so something to sort out there. Can't do any more now......
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Old 07-09-22, 08:59
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Oh haha! Still, I was right. I tried trawling the indexes for nameless births in Rotherham in 1885 but either it didn't work or there weren't any. Might be worth contacting the GRO?

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I think neither of these are who we are looking for, the difference between Cole and Coley means I no longer see a Jewish connection, lol. But need to be eliminated I agree.

On another note, I am sure I've read somewhere that the GRO holds a register of foundlings. I'll check!

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OC, I don't understand why you think Peter had any Jewish ethnicity? Those of his descendants who have tested on Ancestry don't have any at all, but his grandchild has 19% Italian.
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Old 07-09-22, 10:33
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Kate, it was the combination of names and possible Italian ancestry which made me think Jewish. The Jewish DNA could have been lost generations before by a npe. But it was only a guess and I was wrong (not for the first time).

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I found this about foundlings.

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boar.../thread/717337

There's a post from someone called An Olde Crone dated 2007!
Interesting
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Old 07-09-22, 11:01
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OC, I don't understand why you think Peter had any Jewish ethnicity? Those of his descendants who have tested on Ancestry don't have any at all, but his grandchild has 19% Italian.
I have messaged her Kate. She’s logged in to Ancestry today but hasn’t read my message. I’m expecting to be ignored. As I said, we don’t really get on.
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Old 07-09-22, 11:17
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Horace Duke

There's only one birth reg:

DUKE, HORACE KIRKBY
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 665

but the child I want to eliminate was said to have been born the following year in July.

The above birth is probably the son of William Duke and Elizabeth nee Kirkby m Q4 1866 Sheffield. He was born 18 Feb 1884 and bap 20 Aug 1884 at St Thomas, Kimberworth, Rotherham.

The one I want to eliminate is the son of George Duke and Eliza. Not sure of her maiden name yet....
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Old 07-09-22, 11:27
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I've now discovered that Horace, son of Eliza and George was actually born in Sheffield not Rotherham and he was registered one year earlier than the date recorded on his baptism. I am pretty sure this is correct as his mmn (Swinton) matches with the registerations for his siblings. He is also on the 1911 census in Bentley with Arksey, Yorkshire which is where he was with his parents in 1901. So..... another eliminated!

(I'm expecting all these people will be eliminated as no Italian connection, but as there's only one to go I may as well finish!)
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Charles Moore

In 1891 Charles is with his parents in Hemsworth:

Sam 41 coal miner b Leic Gilmorton
Jane 42 b Yorks Haugh
Samuel A 20 b Yorks Greasborough
Joseph15 b Yorks Greasborough
Mary A 13 b Yorks Rotherham
George 11 b Yorks Greasborough
Ellen 9 b Yorks Greasborough
Henry 8 b Yorks Rotherham
Charles 5 b Yorks Greasborough
Fred 4 b Yorks Greasborough
Louisa 2 b Yorks Hemsworth

In 1901 he isn't with his parents, but I think he is a boarder in the household of his older brother, Joseph (now 26). Both of them say b Rotherham and are living in Hemsworth where they were in 1891.

In 1911 Charles is still in Hemsworth, and still says b Rotherham.

I with I'd looked at the 1939 register first. That has him with dob 22 Jul 1885. So, eliminated!
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Thanks for looking Merry
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