William Reverson

[Merry]

I thought this might be Phyllis getting married:



Marriages Sep 1931
Anthony Eltie A Boughey Willesden 3a 903
Boughey Arthur Anthony Willesden 3a 903
Fordham Stanley G Reversoin Willesden 3a 903 <<<<<<<
Reversoin Phyllis B Fordham Willesden 3a 903 <<<<<<<

Her dob on the 1939 register is 10 June 1908. If she and Nina were any sort of sibling they can't have the same mother as Julia's birth was later on in 1908 (31 Aug?)

In Mar Q 1947 Phyllis married Reginald E Musgrave.

Re her dob, of course if she was born in June 1908 then she wouldn't have been four years old for the 1911 census, but her date of birth when she died is recorded as 10 June 1907!

Name:
Phyllis Blanche Musgrave
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1907
Date of Registration: Mar 1992
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Newbury
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 19
Page: 175

None of which helps with a birth reg!

[Merry]

I looked on fmp to see if any Reverson was mentioned as an exor in the probate calendar. William was for widow Clara Thomas in 1946. I can't see that her background is connected to his at all - She was born Clara Simmonds 28 Jan 1867 in Bethnal Green, the dau of Henry Francis and Rebecca Simmonds ne Hargood and married William Edward Thomas in 1889. I expect she was just a patient of Dr Reverson's,

[Phoenix]

Wow, you have been busy! I was out yesterday - will look a this properly at lunch time!

[Reverson]

I am a daughter of Julia Nina Reverson, and I have some of the answers to your questions. I have been trying to find out information on James Reverson, our grandfather. Can you help?

[HarrysMum]

Welcome. I'm sure you'll have some answers very soon. This group is brilliant at solving mysteries.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Reverson

I am a daughter of Julia Nina Reverson, and I have some of the answers to your questions. I have been trying to find out information on James Reverson, our grandfather. Can you help?

Welcome to the forum

Perhaps you could tell us the answers you have!

I have just looked back to see what we have on James already - 1901 census - possible father to various people. Do you have any information about him from your mother's marriage certificate? (or anywhere else?!)

[Merry]

1901 census

93 Oakdale Road, Leyton, Essex
James Reverson head m 34 wood cutting machinist b Russia Warsaw (Russian subject)
Juliet Reverson wife m 36 b Russia Lody (Russian subject)
William W Reverson nephew s 11 b London Hornsey

Juliet/Julia's death:

Deaths Dec 1907
REVERSON Julia 42 Paddington 1a 50

James' remarriage

Marriages Jun 1908
REVERSON James Hendon 3a 561
Von Eckh Lucy Adelaide Hendon 3a 561

Do you have the above marriage cert and/or your mother's birth cert?

Have you found your mother on the 1911 census?

Do you know who Phyllis is? (posts #19 and #21)

[Janet]

Merry, if you can look at the image that 1901 census says Lodz, not Lodi, for Juliet's birthplace. It's currently the third-largest city in Poland, and before the war had the second-largest Jewish population after Warsaw.

[Merry]

Thanks Janet.

So, James doesn't seem to appear with his known name on the 1911 census. We think we have found his second wife, but whilst she has children with her in 1911 they are not Julia and Brenda (who I can't find at all!).

This is a resume of what we have on James' second wife (the 1908 marriage cert would help confirm if this information is correct):

Births Sep 1871
Eyck Lucy Adelaide Warwick 6d 525

1881 census - not found

Births Dec 1897
Von Eck Hermann Johannes Pancras 1b 60

1901 census - not found

Births Mar 1906
Voneck Lucy Pancras 1b 42

Marriages Jun 1908
REVERSON James Hendon 3a 561
Von Eckh Lucy Adelaide Hendon 3a 561

Lucy in 1911 with her two children - she says she has been married 14 years (!) and was born in Warwick about 1874/5 and has two living children:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/23...nSearchResults

Is Lucy the mother of Julia, Brenda or Phyllis, all born between 1908 and 1911? If not, who is?

Earlier in this thread I said:

It was Hermann's US Naturalization papers that said his father was James, but I can't find a version I can see online now as I don't have a US sub.

Stupidly I didn't say where I had seen that and can't re-find it Can anyone else find it?

[Merry]

These look likely for Lucy:


Marriages Dec 1926

Clark John Reverson W. Ham 4a 687
Reverson Lucy Clark W.Ham 4a 687

1939 register:

238 Sheringham Avenue , East Ham C.B., Essex
Lucy Clark b 15 Aug 1871 married occ Unpaid Domestic Duties
John Clark b 03 Jan 1860 married occ Watchman

possible deaths?


Deaths Mar 1942
Clark John 82 Essex S.W. 4a 284


Deaths Mar 1957
CLARK Lucy A 85 Essex S.W. 5a 204

None of which helps with James Reverson! But you never know what might......