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11-02-11, 09:22
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Mary Andrew c. 1788 - 1871 (OH's MFFMM)
OH's mother's father's father's mother's mother
Name - "official" name and what they were known as Mary Andrew Date and place of birth about 1788 Roughtown, Saddleworth Names of parents William Andrew - name from the will of William Newton, Mary's husband and Betty (Hawkyard): "...all my share estate and interest of and in all those chief or ground rents arising and payable from land and buildings situate at or near Roughtown and Andrew Mill aforesaid belonging to my late father in law William Andrew or which may hereafter arise or become payable to me from the said property late belonging to the said William Andrew and all other my share estate and interest of and in the property late belonging to my father in law William Andrew situate at or near Roughtown and Andrew Mill aforesaid and also all that mortgage debt or sum of three hundred pounds lent by me on security of the said property of the said William Andrew at Roughtown and Andrew Mill aforesaid..." Date and place of baptism 2 November 1788 St George, Mossley Details of each of his or her marriages to William Newton 1 October 1808 Manchester Cathedral Children 1. Sarah c. 1809 Staley Wood/Mill Brook 2. Jane b. 17 Feb 1812 chr 2 Apr 1845 Mossley New onnection 3. Hannah chr 19 Nov 1815 4. Elizabeth (Betty) chr 25 May 1817 5. Mary Ann chr 14 Jun 1818 6. John chr 25 Jun 1820 St Michael Ashton under Lyne 7. Harriet chr 16 Feb 1823 8. Catherine chr 22 May 1825 9. James 1827 10. Anne chr 22 May 1828 11. Joseph c. 1831 Occupation(s) - if any none given Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!). 1841 Census Class: HO107; Piece 102; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Mottram in Longden Dale; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 10; Page: 14; Line: 22; New Buildings Stayley William Newton 50 Shopkeeper & ? (illegible) Yes Mary 50 Yes Harriet 18 Yes Catherine 16 Yes James 14 School boy Yes Joseph 10 School boy Yes 1851 Census Class: HO107; Piece: 2239; Folio: 448; Page: 23 New Buildings Stayley William Newton Head Married 63 Shopkeeper Grocer Yorks Saddleworth Mary Wife Married 62 Yorks Saddleworth Catherine Daur U 25 Cheshire Lancs? Jane Bayley Grand daur 8 Scholar Cheshire Lancs? 1861 Census Class: RG9; Piece: 3006; Folio: 32; Page: 16; New Buildings Stayley William Newton Head Mar 73 Proprietor of Houses Lydgate Yorkshire Mary Wife Wife 72 Roughtown Yorkshire Jane Grand daur 18 House maid Staly Cheshire 1871 Census Class: RG10; Piece: 4086; Folio: 39; Page: 29 Wakefield Road Stalybridge John Haigh Head Married 52? No occupation Mapley Lancashire Catherine Wife Married 46 Staly bridge Lancashire Herbert Son Unmarried 19 C Presser Staly bridge Lancashire Mary Ann Daur 16 C Winder Staly bridge Lancashire James Son 13 C Knotter Staly bridge Lancashire Elizabeth Daur 11 Scholar Staly bridge Lancashire Harriet Daur 8 Scholar Staly bridge Lancashire John Son 6 Scholar Staly bridge Lancashire Mary Mother in law Widow 82 Roughtown Saddleworth W. Yorks Date, place and cause of death 19th July 1871 at Wakefield Road Stalybridge aged 82 years Widow of William Newton Farmer Cause of death: Exhaustion Long time Certified Informant: Catherine Haigh Present at the death Wakefield Road Stalybridge Date and place of burial St George, Mossley Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable unknown - unlikely Her husband William Newton left a very detailed will Memorial inscription Here Resteth William Newton who departed this life July 16th 1861 in the 75th year of his age Also Mary his wife who departed this life 19th July 1871 in the 83rd year of her age Also Mary Ann their daughter and wife of Neddy Shelmerdine who departed this life January 28th 1844 in the 26th year of her age Register of Graves: William Newton. Staley. Last edited by ElizabethHerts; 12-10-21 at 19:49. 
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14-02-11, 13:44
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I don't know whether you already have this, but Lancashire Will Search has an entry for a William Andrew of Upper Mill in Saddleworth, weaver, 23 Jun 1813.
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14-02-11, 13:46
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Oh, and there's a possible baptism for her on FamilySearch - Mary Andrew baptised 2 Nov 1788 Mossley, Lancashire, parents William and Betty.
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14-02-11, 13:59
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Kate, I have bought several wills for people in OH's tree in this district, most of them red herrings! I'll go and check to see if I have this one.
I've also got that baptism and I have tentatively got her mother as Betty Hawkyard: Possible marriage: Groom's Name: William Andrew Bride's Name: Betty Hawkyard Marriage Date: 1787 Marriage Place: Saddleworth, Yorkshire, England The problem is, in this part of the world, there seem to be so many Andrews and Newtons and all the other surnames in OH's tree. It's also complicated by the fact that you don't know whether to look in Yorkshire (Saddleworth), Lancashre (Staley) or Cheshire (Ashton under Lyne)! Perhaps the will will shed some light! Many thanks for your help. At least someone else is coming up with the same results!
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12-10-21, 19:49
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