What happened to Lily and Harry Myers?

[Effie]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Given that Sarah became Tess, it's possible that Lily had an additional first name that she adopted after leaving home.

Yes that is a possibility - or like her other sister Bessie she may have married, separated, met someone else and lived with him as his wife. Bessie married a Henry Waldon in 1917 but by 1939 was living as Mrs Edward Baker in Bridport. They eventually married in 1965 a few months after the death of Henry.

[Effie]

I think I may have found Lily! I am waiting for the wedding certificate to confirm. In 1915 a Lily Myers married a Valere Roberti - in St Pancras.Valere had been evacuated from Belgium and processed in Glasgow aged 22 and his trade was given as traveller. In October 1916 poor Lily died aged 24 in St Pancras hospital of”Poisoning by Arsenic following injection of neo Salvarsan duly and properly administered as part of treatment for syphalis” it’s on the death certificate that we learn that Valere was now a soldier in the Belgian Army. Strangely Lily Roberti seems to have been buried twice, in St Pancras Parish Church graveyard - admitted on the 17th October though it gives her date of death as the 18th and then on the 26th October in Plashet Jewish cemetery, East Ham. The parish church burial record give her occupation as tailoress. I will update this when the wedding certificates arrives.

[Olde Crone]

Amazing, not least for the mention of syphilis. At that time and maybe to this day, syphilis is not mentioned on death certificates as such, it is always GPI (grand paralysis of the insane). Perhaps Coroners didn't have such fine feelings as Registrars. I realise she didn't die of syphilis, but couldn't they have said proper medical treatment or something vague.

It does sound like it's the right one.

OC

[Effie]

Yes it’s quite a shocking thing isn’t it - I’m glad the Myers managed to arrange for her burial in a Jewish cemetery- I guess this may have been difficult due to her marrying (presumably) a catholic.

[Phoenix]

In Salisbury, it looks as if people are being buried twice: in the parish churchyard, and the local cemetery. What I think was happening was that a burial service was performed in the church, but the actual burial took place in the cemetery. By 1916, nobody would have been buried in St Pancras churchyard unless there was an existing space in a family vault.

[Effie]

Ah - that makes sense - I was imagining exhumations

[Olde Crone]

Mmmm. Jews are supposed to be buried within 24 hours of death, so maybe some kind of intervention WAS involved. Eight days seems quite a long time between death and burial in those days. I wonder if the St Pancras burial was entered in advance, as it were, by the hoepital chaplain? (Oh for a time machine!)

OC

[kiterunner]

If you are looking at this record, it seems to be a Register of Deaths in the St Pancras South Infirmary, not of burials:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ource&pId=7884

[Effie]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

If you are looking at this record, it seems to be a Register of Deaths in the St Pancras South Infirmary, not of burials:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ource&pId=7884

Thankyou - you’re right - I must try to read things properly

[Effie]

Originally Posted by Olde Crone

Mmmm. Jews are supposed to be buried within 24 hours of death, so maybe some kind of intervention WAS involved. Eight days seems quite a long time between death and burial in those days. I wonder if the St Pancras burial was entered in advance, as it were, by the hoepital chaplain? (Oh for a time machine!)

OC

The death certificate says inquests held 26th October and 4th November . Now the burial info at Plashet is from Find a grave - it gives the date of death as 25th October - it doesn’t have a burial date. The people in the plots either side of her have death dates given as October 24th. I am wondering if the inquest opened on the 26th, released Lilys body which was buried the same day, adjourned and then reopened and concluded Nov 4th. The Oct 25th date of death must be a typo?