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Old 12-09-17, 06:12
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Hiya Merry - why would a Baptist Minister wait until his daughter was an ADULT before she was baptised ???
Baptism: 8 Nov 1895 St George, Everton, Lancashire, England
Kate Palmerston Buck - [Child] of James Buck & Sarah
Abode: 4 Rupert Lane
Occupation: Baptist minister
Notes: Adult
Baptised by: Richard Postance

or is this just an amazing coincidence - a different James and Sarah and James being a Baptist Minister - if it is them - 4 Rupert Lane is by Evertons football ground

what do you think ?
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Old 12-09-17, 06:46
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I'd say not a co-incidence as Kate and her husband and children were at 4 Rupert Lane, Everton in 1891.

I presume St George's is C of E? If yes, then I would imagine she had converted. Having said that, she had been married in C of E in 1884 (St Mary's West Derby) so I'm surprised her C of E bap wasn't before that!

I don't have any baptism records for any of James's children. I don't know much about Baptists - don't they go in for adult baptisms rather than babies?

Interesting about the football ground - when was it built?
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1891 to 1892 Everton ground was built - Everton were formed from St Domingo church - which was a Methodist church - St George is an Anglican C of E church - still open today .
St Mary ,West Derby is a beautiful church and we are talking money people here - even today it is a rich area - so why would she be in a rich area like West Derby in 1884 - ? where did James and Sarah live in Liverpool ??
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Interesting.

James's addresses:

1851 Abercromby, Liverpool, Lancashire
1861 and 1871 28 West Derby Street, Liverpool, Lancashire
1881 138 Edge Lane, West Derby, Lancashire

Before 1851 James lived in Yorkshire with his first wife, though he was born in Dorset where his family had lived for centuries. His father was a mariner (like most of my Dorset Bucks). James's father died in Liverpool (Abercromby) in the 1850s but as I don't have him in 1841 I don't know when he came to Liverpool from Dorset. When he died he was living with James.

Kate's husband was a tailor and draper. They moved to Staffordshire before the 1901 census (maybe Kate didn't like football?!)

Her brothers were commercial clerks.
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When Kate married at St Mary's West Derby her husband's address was West Derby but Kate's was St Saviour's Liverpool
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Abercromby / West Derby Street and Edge Lane are all typical Liverpool areas - working class - West Derby Village isn't though - I presume Kates husbands family had money then - maybe they owned a Tailors business in the City Centre ?? ...anyway - good luck with your search ...xxx and thanks again for your help
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Hiya Merry - why would a Baptist Minister wait until his daughter was an ADULT before she was baptised ???
Because that's what Baptists do.
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lol Kate!
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She's right; they don't believe in child baptism.
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I blame my not being able to find the parents of my 3x-great-grandmother Sarah Thomason on the fact that her family was probably Baptist. Her children were not baptised and her husband Edward White was probably baptist (although C of E at birth).
As they married at the end of June 1837, just tantalisingly before civil registration, I can't find out who her father was, and he was deceased as she had a guardian. She died in 1843 so the censuses are of no use, either!
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