Who Do You Think You Are - Annie Lennox 5th Sep

[kiterunner]

On the 1861 census the eldest three are servants in various households and Charles is living in Banff (if I have found the right person!) with an aunt Isabella Dallas age 46 born Gelliemill, Banffshire (according to ancestry.) Isabella has children called Arthur 15, John 13, Louisa 11 and Mary 7. Looking at baptisms on FamilySearch, it looks as though Isabella's husband was also called Arthur, and Isabella's maiden name was Sellars, so I'm not sure how they are Charles's uncle and aunt. Of course ancestry may have mistranscribed relationship to head - will see if I can find it on FMP or FamilySearch to check.

possible with Dallas family

[kiterunner]

Ah, never mind - I think that was the wrong Charles! I've found another one now, living at Tomintoul with some Frasers and a Stuart, link coming in a minute... hmm, ancestry has him as Charles Stuart and his birthplace is Kirkmichael, so now I don't know which Charles is the right one! Also I just realised this is a different Tomintoul from the one where Isabella McHardy lived.

possible in Tomintoul

[kiterunner]

John Dallas got married in Ontario, Canada in 1877 and gives his mother's name as Isabella Stewart Sellar, and Jessie's mother's mother was Ann Stewart, so maybe that's where the connection is.

[kiterunner]

Okay, found a public tree on ancestry which shows Isabella Stewart Sellar as born about 1815, Gelliemill, Banffshire, the daughter of Charles Stewart and Ann. Not sure where the surname Sellar comes from, though.

Originally Posted by Shona

With reference to Janet/Jessie being sent back when Mrs C had no further use for her, it begs the question: Where would she be sent back?

Well by the age 10 you could go to work in a mill which is what she probably did as she's on the census aged 13 working at a mill in Aberdeen.

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Ah, never mind - I think that was the wrong Charles! I've found another one now, living at Tomintoul with some Frasers and a Stuart, link coming in a minute... hmm, ancestry has him as Charles Stuart and his birthplace is Kirkmichael, so now I don't know which Charles is the right one! Also I just realised this is a different Tomintoul from the one where Isabella McHardy lived.

possible in Tomintoul

Remember that there is a Tomintoul village/town but the farm was called 'Tomintoul' and in Braemar two different places I believe.

Edited to say: Tomintoul Croft not farm.
http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site...&sort_ord=desc

[Shona]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

John Dallas got married in Ontario, Canada in 1877 and gives his mother's name as Isabella Stewart Sellar, and Jessie's mother's mother was Ann Stewart, so maybe that's where the connection is.

Now I am confused...

The 1851 census has Janet Fraser, 3, daughter of Mary Fraser, pauper, widow.

But Janet, natural born daughter of James Rose, solicitor, and Ann Stewart.

[kiterunner]

It was Mary (Jessie's mother) who was the natural born daughter of James Rose and Ann Stewart.

[Shona]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

It was Mary (Jessie's mother) who was the natural born daughter of James Rose and Ann Stewart.

I think I need a screen break!

[Shona]

1841 census - Banff

Water Path

James Rose, 45, solicitor
Isabella Rose, 35
Archibald Rose, 15
Robert Rose, 15
Isabella Rose, 10
Jane Rose, 5
Georgina Rose, 5
Jemima Rose, 3
Jessie Cogle, 25, FS
Elizabeth Cruickshank, 20, FS
Magt Riddoh, 15, FS

Old Market Place

Charles Fraser, 25, blacksmith
Marion Fraser, 20
James Fraser, 1


1847-1848 Post Office Directory - Banff

Archibald Rose, solicitor, 11 Bridge Street
James Rose, solicitor, 11 Bridge Street