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Old 13-01-19, 17:10
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How interesting! I have an album of postcards sent to my great aunt (b1903) from family members and friends all with stamps attached....

Wouldn't it be great to get my grandma's dna tested!
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Old 13-01-19, 18:56
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Interesting, but.... what happens to the artifact?
My father wrote a letter to himself in (I think) 1948, describing life then, not to be opened for a number of years. This would be ideal, but.... I've never opened it, never read it. I cannot imagine that I'd get it back intact.
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Interesting, but.... what happens to the artifact?
My father wrote a letter to himself in (I think) 1948, describing life then, not to be opened for a number of years. This would be ideal, but.... I've never opened it, never read it. I cannot imagine that I'd get it back intact.
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I had a whole heap of envelopes from relatives to my grandma which I kept for ages for the return addresses. I think I've tossed them though.

One thing though - what about consent? I have letters from my Mum, who is still alive. I could send them in to get her DNA without bothering to ask her her opinion on the test.
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The same laws apply to DNA testing living people without their consent by this method as to any other.
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Old 15-01-19, 22:20
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That is good news although I'm still not sure I approve. I mean what if Churchill had skeletons he didn't want made public?
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Everyone loses all their rights once they are dead. Anyone who takes a dna test is, however inadvertently, violating other people's right to privacy. The recent success in catching criminals through dna given by their relatives for family history purposes is an example.

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Old 16-01-19, 11:39
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Everyone loses all their rights once they are dead. Anyone who takes a dna test is, however inadvertently, violating other people's right to privacy. The recent success in catching criminals through dna given by their relatives for family history purposes is an example.

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The UK pioneered Familial DNA matching to solve crimes. Only 12 states in the USA allow it.

http://www.dnaforensics.com/familialsearches.aspx

At the moment it is only used through criminal databases in the UK I believe I.e. if a family member has committed a crime then they will get a partial match with the unsolved DNA profile. I don't have a problem with that, both subjects have committed crimes and therefore the police can retain that DNA.

However in the USA a criminal profiler and police uploaded an unknown DNA profile to Gedmatch and got a hit on familial DNA through a family tree and they then caught the Golden State Killer who had murdered 13 people, committed 50 rapes, a 100 burglaries from 1974-1986.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Killer

I am not sure I am worried about either method to be honest, if one of my relatives has committed a crime I hope they are caught.
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Old 16-01-19, 13:07
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Maggie, no, I'm not worried about serious criminals being caught by this method either, just using it as an example of unconsented(is there such a word?) use of a third party's dna.

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Old 16-01-19, 13:57
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Maggie, no, I'm not worried about serious criminals being caught by this method either, just using it as an example of unconsented(is there such a word?) use of a third party's dna.

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That is true but I expect they have to get a warrant for ancestral sites, and get permission. I expect it has only happened that one time. I think on that ocassion the cold case had been opened 3 or 4 times and it was the last resort.

As for the criminal database they need no such permission obviously.
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