Who Do You Think You Are - Samantha Womack 15th Aug

[Olde Crone]

Fanny's death maybe?

Fanny E A Cook (68) Jun 1933 Newton Abbot

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[Shona]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

I think the last sighting we have of Jessie so far is in a 1952 city directory of Paterson, New Jersey, USA, using the surname Finkle. I don't think we found Harry's death yet either, but I do know that there aren't very many New Jersey deaths online for that period.

Could Jessie have returned to the UK in the 1950s? I've found a death record of a Jessie M Cook in Surrey in 1958, aged 92. Which fits in with the birth year of 1866.

Certainly an interesting family!

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by Shona

Could Jessie have returned to the UK in the 1950s? I've found a death record of a Jessie M Cook in Surrey in 1958, aged 92. Which fits in with the birth year of 1866.

Could be though I haven't found a passenger arrival.

[Shona]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Could be though I haven't found a passenger arrival.

I can't find one either.

[Olde Crone]

Maybe she flew!

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[kosmos66]

No one seems to have picked up on the fact that in 1936 Jessie Finkle married the Albert John Cook who was the widower of her sister Fanny.

Fanny Eliza A Ryder married Albert John Cook at Pancras (London) in Oct -Dec 1889.
The 1891 Census has Albert (age 26) and Fanny (age 26= b.1865) living back in Plymouth with Fanny's (and Jessie's) mother Fanny Ryder (age 48).

Fanny would appear to have died in Newton Abbot in 1933 aged 68 (= b.1865).
Thereafter Jessie Finkle travels from NY to Plymouth arriving 4 Aug 1936 and
marries Albert John Cook in July-Sep 1936. At that time Jessie (b. Oct-Dec 1866, Plymouth) would have been aged 69 and Albert aged 71.

It is not clear when Albert John Cook died (too many Cooks ...), but it was obviously not the Albert S Cook who died in Rochford in Oct-Dec 1947.

[kiterunner]

Yes, that's one of the topics we've been discussing over the last couple of pages of this thread, Kosmos.

[kosmos66]

Sorry, missed that page!

[Shona]

Samantha's father was born Noel Robert Janes in 1949. At some point he changed his name to Janus.

Noel's father was Robert William Brough Janes. In 1939, RWBJ married Dorothy G Whitton. In 1952, RWBJ married Marion MacDonald. One of his children from this relationship was Angie MacDonald who went on to marry George Best.

Noel birth in the indexes state that his mother's maiden name was Janes or Cunningham-Ryan. I cross-checked this and his mother is Beatrice Cunningham-Ryan.

In 1953, Beatrice appears on the electoral register at 5 Queen Anne's Terrace in Kensington. Possibly a hotel.

Beatrice Cunningham-Ryan died in 1965.

Doris Cunningham-Ryan - who we saw at the beginning of the show - married Douglas J Heatherington in 1949.

When Samantha went to see Dolly in Brighton, I'm sure Dolly was introduced as her father's mother.

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by Shona

Noel birth in the indexes state that his mother's maiden name was Janes or Cunningham-Ryan. I cross-checked this and his mother is Beatrice Cunningham-Ryan.

Can you explain what you cross-checked against what, please, Shona?

When Samantha went to see Dolly in Brighton, I'm sure Dolly was introduced as her father's mother.

Yes, that's right, she was Noel's mother.