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Old 08-06-12, 22:31
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Default Charles Pierce

Baptised 17 August 1788, Cowfold, son of Thomas & Mary

Married Ann Richardson 20 April 1814, Cowfold, Sussex

Died 24 August 1856 Little Picknole, Cowfold, Sussex Ag Lab aged 68

Buried 31 August 1856 Cowfold, Sussex
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Old 09-07-14, 08:07
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In thirty odd years, I have never established who Charles' mother was. There are two marriages in the 1760s - which seem too early - and one in 1790, apparently too late: Thomas Pierce who marries Mary Ede, a blacksmith at Lindfield.

In 1851, a Philip Pierce b c 1803 is living at Picknowle, Cowfold, with his father Thomas aged 80, so born c 1771.

Extracts of manorial documents online make it clear that there were two Picknowles: https://archive.org/stream/sussexarc...e/170/mode/2up
and that they were clearly being rented out to tenants.

Is this Thomas Charles' father? (family search notes some Cowfold burials, but doesn't give age at burial) His brother? A cousin?

I'm not sure this advances the search, but I present it in case anyone else has suggestions. I thought manorial records might be a way forward, but Charles' son (another Thomas) was clearly a tenant farmer on short leases or annual rental as he is forever moving.
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FamilySearch lists the following baptisms at Cowfold with parents Thomas Pierce and Mary:

Elisabeth 13 Jul 1762
Elisabeth 13 Jul 1763
Ann 16 Jun 1765
Ann 28 Jun 1765
Ann 11 Oct 1766
James 25 Mar 1768
Jane 15 Sep 1776
Mary 10 Dec 1779
Kitty 5 Jun 1781
Stephen 30 May 1784
Charles 7 Aug 1788
Charles 17 Aug 1788
Mary 10 Nov 1790
Sarah 5 Feb 1792
Edward 6 Jan 1793

Presumably the two Charles entries are both the same person with one mistranscribed, and likely the same for the two Elisabeths and two of the Anns. I can't see Philip's baptism listed.
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On the 1851 census Philip's birthplace is Ashurst and there is a Joseph Pierce on the previous page age 48 also born Ashurst. Philip's age is 50 so he would be born about 1800-1 and Joseph about 1802-3. There are a couple of public trees on ancestry showing Philip's mother as Ann but not much info there.
On the 1841 census Thomas has Philip with him, then on the next page there is a James Pierce age 55, "yeoman". Hmm, there do seem to have been a lot of Pierces around.
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One Thomas Pierce m Mary Baker 11 August 1761. (Family Search has this marriage 21 August 1763!)
The witnesses were Eliz Pierce and PHILIP Baker
There is a baptism of Mary Baker, d of Philip Baker in Cowfold.


4 August (or 11 August!) 1766 Thomas Pierce m Mary Dench in Cowfold

30 April 1790 Thomas Pierce m Mary Ede Cowfold
Cowfold: Settlement examination: Thomas PIERCE Par/59/32/4 23 Sep 1790

Contents:
Subject: Thomas PIERCE, blacksmith; married: Mary PIERCE(nee EDE; Lindfield, Cuckfield. Born in Lindfield, where father settled. In 1779 bound apprentice to Thomas LEOPARD blacksmith of Cuckfield, served for 7 yrs.
Other: Mary EDE, wife
Other: Thomas LEOPARD, master

Poor Law Record
Reference Number: Par/59/32/3
Parish: Cowfold
Order type: Removal order
Date: 7 Jan 1795

Subject Thomas PIERCE married Ashurst
Spouse Mary PIERCE

I assume that this Thomas and Mary are being removed to Ashurst. Which must mean he has done something to gain settlement there. No children are mentioned, so is this an elderly, rather than a young couple? Or is this them:
Thomas Pierce to Mary Churcher on 23 June 1794 at Washington (a fourth couple!)
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Old 09-07-14, 21:24
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I've just found this on a Rootschat thread:

Ashurst baptised to Thomas and Mary Pearce
Thomas 19 July 1795
Phillip 28 May 1799
Joseph 7 March 1803
Elizabeth 9 December 1804
Harriott 11 October 1807

They also had a daughter Jane in 1801. It would be tidiest if they were the children of Mary Churcher.
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Old 09-07-14, 21:37
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This (fifth!) marriage looks more promising:

Mary Ashfold
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 30 June 1776 Hurstpierpoint, Sussex, England
spouse: Thos. Pierce

It would fit neatly with Jane as eldest child.
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Sorry, Kite, I should have said thank you for setting out the children so clearly.

I reckon that you have one (or two!) families in the 1760s, a run from 1776 and possibly a third (or fourth!) family in the 1790s.
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This looks like Mary Ede's father & mother in law:

14 SERGISON MSS 2/6/10 Deed Poll, in consideration of ?50, by James Marchant of Laughton, husbandman, John Ashbey of Battle, miller, and Mary, his wife, Jeremiah Gower of Oxted, Co. Surrey, yeoman, and Ann, his wife, and Thomas Peirce of Lindfield, yeoman, and Elizabeth, his wife. 7 May 1782
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Charles' children were

Henry b Horsham
Mary b Ashurst (as were all the rest)
Sarah
Jane
Catherine
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