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26-01-22, 11:37
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John James Harley
HARLEY, JOHN JAMES - GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Mary Ann Harley married William Dougall in the same quarter - was he William's son. 1881 - John J Bell on census. 1891 - John J Sinton on census. 
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26-01-22, 11:45
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In 1901 the Sinton family have David Harley, brother-in-law, staying with them.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...7?pId=30644566
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26-01-22, 11:46
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It's a bit hard to be known by three different surnames, and none of them your biological father's. Though what was said to the enumerator wasn't necessarily what you were known by.
Interesting that Mary Ann had more than a whole decade without any children. It suggests that Alexander was either ill, in prison or at sea. I wonder how she coped?
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26-01-22, 11:58
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When I first did this research there was no MMN on the GRO index but once I found BELL, CATHERINE HARLEY GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE ON TYNE Volume 10B Page 99 I realised that Mary Ann must have been married before as she married Alexander Bell with the MN of Dougall.
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26-01-22, 12:25
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I can well imagine! I can't find any convincing candidates for David and Mary Ann as children unless David's dob is wildly out, one of their birthplaces is wrong, or like John James, they grew up under different surnames.
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26-01-22, 19:42
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Ages are very different to censuses, but these look like Mary Ann and her siblings, children of William and Ann Harley:
HARLEY, ELEANOR JANE LITTLE GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 49 HARLEY, ISABELLA LITTLE GRO Reference: 1861 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 52 HARLEY, MARY ANN LITTLE GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 43 HARLEY, SARAH JANE LITTLE GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 59 HARLEY, DAVID LITTLE GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 100 HARLEY, WILLIAM LITTLE GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 130 HARLEY, JOHN GEORGE LITTLE GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 64 HARLEY, GEORGINA LITTLE GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 92 HARLEY, ISABELLA MARY LITTLE GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 59 HARLEY, MARGARET LITTLE GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 92 HARLEY, CATHERINE LITTLE GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 112
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26-01-22, 19:52
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That would make this the family in 1861:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...1%2F0019508128 William Harley Head Married Male 26 1835 Porter Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Ann Harley Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Ann Harley Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Eleanor Jane Harley Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
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26-01-22, 19:54
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The marriage locator website doesn't have the place of marriage, so it was probably a Register Office:
http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk
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26-01-22, 19:59
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And in 1871:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...1%2F0021026428 William Hasley Head - Male 37 1834 - Northumberland, England Ann Hasley Wife - Female 38 1833 - Northumberland, England Ann Hasley Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Northumberland, England David Hasley Son - Male 8 1863 - Northumberland, England Sarah Jane Hasley Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Northumberland, England William Hasley Son - Male 5 1866 - Northumberland, England Isabella Hasley Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Northumberland, England George Little Brother-in-law - Male 44 1827 - Northumberland, England Hasley is the enumerator's error.
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26-01-22, 20:07
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Wow, Phoenix, you've been busy while I have been watching Winterwatch! Many thanks, I'll check it out.
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