Callaghan McCarthy abt 1800 Cork, Ireland - 1877 London

[Merry]

No, your post wasn't confused. I don't have any Irish ancestors so I have always just accepted it when people have said there are no records of people coming from Ireland to the UK! If that is wrong I'd be very interested to know.

[Nell]

Me too! I always thought Irish-English migration counted as being in the same country so it wasn't recorded.

I suppose a ship going from Ireland elsewhere might count passengers who got off in England.

As for the potato famine, it was in the 1840s and the evidence appears to be that Callaghan and his wife were already in London and having children before that.

[Phoenix]

There is this in 1841: HO 107/733/7 F 24

D McCarty
M McCarty
Biddy 8
Jenny 12
John 3
Eliza 6
Mary 1
?Judy? 3/13??

It says all born Ireland, but that might simply mean both parents Irish, if the question were misunderstood.

[Phoenix]

I'd just point out re the marriage - nobody could contract a legal marriage pre 1837 unless c of e, quaker or jew.

[Phoenix]

They are at 37 Saffron Hill in 1861: RG09 piece 187 folio 62 page 34


That is saying that son John aged 25 was born in Kilkenny

[Nell]

Phoenix

Many thanks, off to look now!

[WendyPusey]

Have you seen these baptisms Nell?

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy..../b752aa0284071

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy..../8898620077542

[Phoenix]

Big if, but if Mary were a Murphy from Kerry, might Philip Murphy (in the same building in 1861) also from Kerry be at least a rellie, if not her brother?

[Nell]

Phoenix I can't find the 1861 info using the ref you provided.

[Nell]

Wendy

Thanks for those, I've added them as possibles.