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This is the 1901 census entry for the Paynes, in Stoke Newington:
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16 Clissold Rd, Stoke Newington
Payne Edmund Head M 37 Actor London Hackney
" Alice Wife M 18 " St Giles
" Emily Daur S 12 Blackpool
" Alice " 11 Bristol
" Edmund Son 6 London N
" Harry " 2 " N
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The 1911 census entry for the Paynes:
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4 Glebe Place, Clissold Park, London N
Edmund Payne Head 46 Married Actor Hackney Ln
Alice Payne Wife 28 Married 10 yrs, 3 children, 3 living Holborn Ln
Alice Payne Daughter 21 Single Bristol
Harry Payne Son 12 Stoke Newington Ln
Mary Payne Daughter 9 Stoke Newington Ln
Leslie Payne Son 6 Stoke Newington Ln
Nora Payne Daughter 4 Stoke Newington Ln
Rose Phillips Cook 51 Widow Islington Ln
Ethel Hasler Servant 20 Single Housemaid Edmonton London
Edith Creswell Servant 17 Single Nursemaid Stoke Newington Ln


TNA's catalogue does have an entry for the divorce of a Harry Frederick Payne and a Dorothy Violet Payne in 1926 but I don't know whether they are the right couple.
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Found a birth registration for Harry Albert F Payne Jul-Sep 1898 Hackney (the district which included Stoke Newington).
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John Harrill Harris (father of Dorothy Harris) comes up on FamilySearch as dying Jul-Sep 1929 Rathdown, Ireland, age 78, and as marrying Apr-Jun 1886 Dublin South. There is a matching marriage entry for Hannah Lowrey. And there is a birth reg for Dorothy Violet Harris Apr-Jun 1897 Dublin South, so I think that divorce in post #22 probably is the right couple. Phew.
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And now I know I should be looking in Ireland, these marriages come up on the Irish Civil Registration Indexes:

Harry F Payne / Dorothy Violet Harris marriage Apr-Jun 1920 Rathdown, Ireland

William Morgan White / Dorothy Violet Harris marriage Jul-Sep 1927 Rathdown, Ireland
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Who was it who suspected that Gareth might have known more than he was letting on? Anyway, if Gareth had done a bit of Googling, he would have discovered an entire website dedicated to Edmund Payne.

http://www.edmundpayne.co.uk/index.asp

It seems that Edmund was also a competitive cyclist. Info about the family background as well.

I also read an article from a Scottish newspaper which stated that Gareth believed he got his passion for music from his father James, who was born in Glasgow.
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There's a lot about Daniel Lowrey on various websites. It appears he had interests in Belfast, too.

The Alhambra Theatre, Belfast

The Alhambra Theatre was first built by Stevenson in 1871 as a Music Hall but didn't open as planned because certain people in Belfast didn't want it to be run as a Music Hall and paid the manager, James Moss, compensation to keep it closed. The Theatre was then rebuilt and eventually opened in 1873, and was said to have been designed by the well known Irish Comedian Dan Lowrey, but was later destroyed by fire. Lowrey then rebuilt the Theatre but let it go in 1879 when he went to run the Star Theatre, Dublin.

Then there is this...

Dan Lowrey 1879–92

The best known, and most popular of the Dublin music hall proprietor/managers were the two Dan Lowreys. Dan Lowrey the first was born in Roscrea in 1823. His parents then emigrated to England, By the time he was thirty he owned a tavern in Liverpool where he also entertained his patrons with songs and stories in addition to serving food and drink. Some time later Lowrey returned to Ireland and opened the Alhambra in Belfast before coming to Dublin in 1878 to purchase the site of an old military barracks in Crampton Court in Temple Bar. This had also been the site of a tavern, and the so-called Monster Saloon Music Hall. On Monday 22 December 1879 his Star of Erin opened to the public. This was a genuine music hall, charging admission (as opposed to the ‘free-and-easies’ which provided entertainment free and made their money from the sale of drink). Licensing regulations prohibited Lowrey from putting on plays, or even sketches involving two people, but he could provide music. The entertainment provided was quite broad, and strictly for men only.

In 1881 Dan assigned the running of the Star of Erin to his son, also Daniel, who changed the name to Dan Lowrey’s Music Hall. John Findlater funded the enterprise through a mortgage on the properties; the decorations etc cost £121 [€20,000], S. H. Bolton the builder received £414 [€43,700] and new ‘sittings’ were supplied by James S. Lyon of High Holborn, London. John kept Daniel in funds by various cash advances to meet specific bills. It seems to have been quite a job keeping both George West and Daniel solvent. In 1882 John was picking up the costs of George West’s dishonoured cheques and paying the costs of the assignment of Daniel Lowrey’s insurance policies.

In 1889 the theatre’s name was changed again, to Dan Lowrey’s Palace of Varieties. In July 1890 Dan senior died at the age of sixty-six in his cottage in Terenure and was buried in Glasnevin Cemetery.

Dan, or Daniel, the second continued to run the music hall, despite continuing sniping from the official patent-holders, notably Michael Gunn who made strenuous attempts in the late 1880s to have the Star closed down on the grounds that it was infringing his patent. The entertainment was cheerfully lowbrow: there was the male impersonator Vesta Tilley, the Christy Minstrels, and Mr and Mrs Johnson ‘unclothing in the flickering limelight of La Studio’, there was ‘the daring young man on the flying trapeze’ (or at least there was until one appalling night when John Lilly of Leeds leapt from rope to rope 25 feet above the stage and missed the bar of the trapeze. He crashed to the ground, cracking his skull. He died soon after being carried to Mercer’s Hospital). Occasionally there were boxing matches, with the popular Jem Mace, ex-Champion Bareknuckle Fighter of the World.

The 1892/3 reconstruction

In his new year address to the city in 1892 Daniel Lowrey announced plans for the reconstruction of the Star. He also declared his intention to update the acts by including sketches and dramatic items, and he resolved to secure the rights to produce opera and short musicals. Adam was on hand to help put the finances together in order to attract the kind of stars the theatre needed. The borrowings were again secured on the properties in Crampton Court.

The board of directors of the new company, the Star Theatre of Varieties Company (Limited), was: Adam in the chair; John J. Farrall, architect; Thomas Ritchie, wine merchant; and Daniel Lowrey, managing director. For his interest, Lowrey received £19,000 [€2.2m]; of this £14,000 was in cash, and £5,000 in deferred shares. He further agreed to accept no interest on these until a dividend had been paid to the buyers of ordinary shares, although he did receive a salary as managing director. Out of the cash Lowrey received, he had to pay off all debts and mortgages on the premises (amounting to over £7,000). ‘My father was a fool in business,’ says Norah Lowrey. Her story is that the Lowrey family was against the sale to the syndicate, but that Daniel was blinded by the lure of the big money and sold his birthright for a seat on the syndicated board.

The new-look Star, which now seated 1,600 people, was ready for the Dublin international season, Horse Show Week, and was opened to the public at a cost of £3,000 [€370,000]. On Saturday 20 August 1892, the invited guests who attended the grand re-opening admired the many changes that had been made.

Daniel was now a popular Dublin character. His name was a byword in Dublin, even inside Trinity. The goodwill of the College was one of his great assets. Infinity Variety records:

'On the night following a Rugby match, especially if the College won, team and followers would descend upon The Star to celebrate and Dan, on the lookout for mischief- makers, often prowled through the House disguised in an old coat and tweed cap. The students’ favourite sport was ‘prigging’ – swiping mirrors, jugs, tankards, juggler’s balls, wigs, greasepaint, notice boards, ‘right under the nose of Dan’ – trophies for their rooms. Norah relates ‘we had a very comfortable lounge in the theatre, with nice armchairs, carpet, a fire in winter and a coal box. One night my father noticed five students leaving with a hunchback amongst them. He said: ‘Just a moment, Gentlemen!’ and found the coal box in the hump. This was going too far. He decided to call the Police. They pleaded, he gave in, gave them a severe telling off and let them go. Years later a clergyman appeared in his office. ‘I was the hunchback’ he said, ‘you were kind to me that night, Mr Lowrey, and saved my career.’

Cinématographe 1895

One of Dan Lowrey’s great talents was the ability to predict what novelties would prove attractive to his audiences, and so it was with the advent of cinema in Dublin. The motion picture finally became a reality when Auguste Lumière of Lyons, France, patented his first projection machine for the large public showing of celluloid film on 15 February 1895. He called the whole contraption Le Cinématographe. Thanks to Dan and Adam’s efforts, the very next year the cinématographe arrived at the Star Theatre in Dublin less than two months after it was first seen in England. Unfortunately, the first night was not a success. The audience sat expectantly, but for a long time nothing happened. Then, periodic sparks of light lit up the screen, but nothing could be made out. For a brief moment, the image of two prize-fighters graced the screen, but then the machine broke down.

After consultation with the Lumière brothers, the cinématographe was booked again for the first week in October 1896, and this time everything ran smoothly. Seven thousand people thronged through the doors at Crampton Court and Sycamore Street for the first week of the pictures.

On 1 January 1897, from his office at Sycamore Street, Daniel Lowrey issued what was to be his last address to the public:

'Since the time when, seventeen years ago, I took possession of its site and year by year have striven—and succeeded too—in raising it from the slough in which it then in the eyes of the public stood to the proud position it now occupies–a financial colossus patronised by the elite standing in the very front rank of the foremost theatres and now it has been a matter of notoriety that the accommodation of the theatre is now inadequate for the enormous patronage. I intimated my intention of having it enlarged to double its present capacity and having a grand main entrance from Dame Street. Already the work of rebuilding is greatly advanced, and when the Star Theatre is reopened, the eyes of the public will also be opened to the finest amusement palace inside or outside London. A structure of beauty worthy of the city of Dublin and of the generous support with which its citizens have always upheld my efforts in catering for their healthy enjoyment.'

However, financially Lowrey was in trouble, as he now had to finance the theatre in Cork, and his share of the Empire in Belfast and the Empire Palace in Dublin. He thus mortgaged all his leases and properties including his home, Roslyn Park in Sandymount. Everything rested on the success of the new theatre.

Daniel Lowrey dies, 1898

On 16 August 1898 Daniel Lowrey died from a brain tumour. Newspaper obituaries mourned the passing of Lowrey. As the Irish Figaro wrote: ‘It is generally agreed that he was the father of the profession’.

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Another website says this:

...as a boy, Lowrey, a native of Tipperary, had emigrated to England with his parents.
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Thankyou Shona, that was far more interesting than the programme, lol!

Seems the producers cleaned up the past and just showed us the nice bits, which is okay...but it's not real, is it?

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But since Dan gives Leeds as his birthplace on the censuses, and was baptised in Leeds, I suspect those articles are wrong about him being born in Ireland. I should think his parents came over to England before he was born.
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