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Old 08-03-22, 08:29
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Default Clara Jane Clark?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...20?pId=7537123

She is on the 1881 Census with her grandmother Esther Fargher.
Esther was born Esther Radcliffe. She married James Patty in 1853 and after his death she married Thomas Fargher. In 1885 she married again, to James Kelly.

As far as I'm aware, she only had two children: Thomas Patty, born 1854, and Eleanor Mary (Ellen) Patty.

This girl is either the child of one of these two children, or she could be the granddaughter of Thomas Fargher, unless she had another child of whom I'm unaware.

She names this child in her will. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...636&cat=234410
Here the surname looks like Charles and not Clark but the writing is pretty appalling.

She should have been born c. 1877 at Malew but I can't find any candidates for her.
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I think the will might say Clarke.
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Is this her on the 1891 census?
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...true&pId=17820
Parents Henry and Jane.
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This is Henry in 1881 - wife's name is Eliza. Clara isn't there but the other children from 1891 are.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ue&pId=7537100

Also an Esther Radcliffe age 86, "relative".
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In 1871 Eleanor Patty is visiting the Clark family:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...rn&pId=3788707
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I've been looking at those too, Kate.

Ooh, I haven't looked at Eleanor / Ellen Patty recently.

I can't find a baptism for Clara, which is unusual.

There seems to be a lot of intermarriage on the Isle of Man. Off to look further!
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This is Henry in 1881 - wife's name is Eliza. Clara isn't there but the other children from 1891 are.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ue&pId=7537100

Also an Esther Radcliffe age 86, "relative".
Clara is with Esther Fargher at Malew.
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Here is the break-through!

First name(s) Eliza
Last name Radcliffe
Sex Female
Event year 1851
Birth year 1851
Baptism year 1851
Baptism date 04 Dec 1851
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Esther
Mother's last name Radcliffe
Place St Mark's, Mallew
County Isle of Man
Country Isle of Man
Source Isle of Man Births & Baptisms 1606-1911
Record set Isle Of Man, Births And Baptisms 1600-2010
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Great Britain, UK Other
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Clara is with Esther Fargher at Malew.
Yes, I realise that, but I thought it worth mentioning that there wasn't also a Clara with the Clark family, just to prove that there was only one Clara.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...A1%3AQV9B-Y755

Now I'm confused!
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