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Old 17-12-10, 07:40
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Default Sarah Thomason (MMFFM)

mother's mother's father's father's mother

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Sarah Thomason

Date and place of birth
c. 1816 (from death information)

Names of parents
Unknown

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
Unknown

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
To Edward White
28th June 1837 Headley Hampshire
Witnesses:
William White (groom's brother)
Richard Hall (guardian of Sarah)
http://www.johnowensmith.co.uk/marriages/marr-WYZ.htm


Children:
1. William Edward 15 January 1839 The Workhouse Headley
2. Frederic 12 August 1840 The Workhouse Headley
3. Joseph Thomason 10 December 1841 The Workhouse Headley


Occupation(s) - if any
1841 Matron of the Workhouse at Headley, Hampshire

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
1841 Census
Headley Workhouse Headley Hampshire
Edward White 40 Master No
Sarah White 25 Matron N
William Edward 2 Y
Frederic 9 months Y

It appears that Sarah and Edward White had to leave employment at the Workhouse, probably because of Sarah's health. When Sarah died the family lived in Bramshot and Edward White was a shoemaker.



Date, place and cause of death
Sarah White died
12th August 1843 Bramshot
Aged 27 years
Wife of Edward White Shoemaker
Cause of death: Consumption
Informant: The mark of X Elizabeth Adsett Present at the Death Bramshot


Date and place of burial.
18 August 1843 Bramshott
aged 27 years


Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
Unlikely

Memorial inscription - if any
Not known

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This is one of my saddest ancestors for me. She was just 27 when she died, leaving 3 small children. I'm even sadder that I know nothing about her before her marriage.

I have the will of a Richard Hall, whom I believe to be her guardian, but it doesn't mention her or her family.
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Although they married in Headley, Hampshire, the marriage record is on Ancestry under Surrey.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/47...l=ReturnRecord


Haven't got time to look at this further as a lot going on here, but must return to this. Note the guardian - Richard Hall. This must be a clue.

Edward was a Baptist - were they from the Baptist community??

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Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
To Edward White
28th June 1837 Headley Hampshire
Witnesses:
William White (groom's brother)
Richard Hall (guardian of Sarah)
On the marriage entry it says "With Consent of the Guardian of S Thomason R White" and R White is a witness you don't mention. Why doesn't it say R Hall in that first sentence? (rhetorical Q lol)

Yo said you have the will of a potential Richard Hall. Which Richard Hall is that please?
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On the marriage entry it says "With Consent of the Guardian of S Thomason R White" and R White is a witness you don't mention. Why doesn't it say R Hall in that first sentence? (rhetorical Q lol)
Ooh, eer, I see what you mean! I should have read it again and not gone from memory.

Rebecca White was the only one of the White children (parents George and Elizabeth) to have been born as a Baptist.

Name: Rebecca White
Birth Date: 2 Feb 1801
Birth Place: Guildford, St Mary, Surrey, England
Gender: Female
Event Type: Birth
Father: George White
Mother: Elizabeth Miles
Denomination: Presbyterian, Independent or Baptist
Piece Title: Piece 122: Certificate nos: H 4046-4300 (1834 June 26-1837 June 15)
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R White I believe to be Rebecca White, Edward's spinster sister, who looked after one of the sons, Joseph, after Sarah died.

I don't believe it means she was the guardian.

Richard Hall was of Bramshott:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...f=&ml_rpos=101

Sarah White died at Bramshott in 1843 and was buried there.
Merry, some time ago you found the death of Sarah for me after I had ordered a couple of incorrect certificates! I was very grateful.
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Thanks.

I was expecting the Richard Hall who died in Petersfield district in 1847 to be the one whose will was proved in 1851, but he was only 37 years of age which seems unlikely. Is R Hall aged 64 in Bramshot in 1841 the one who wrote the will (I guess I should have looked at the date it was signed!)?
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Perhaps it is supposed to mean the Guardian of Sarah Thomason (i.e. Richard Hall) AND R. White (Edward's sister).

William White was Edward's brother.

William was born on 13th September 1798 in Guildford and Rebecca on 2nd February 1801. William was baptised at St Mary, Guildford but Rebecca was entered as a Baptised, so the family converted between 1798 and 1801.
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The will is proved in 1851, so perhaps it isn't the correct Richard Hall. Possibly a son?
The will was written in 1848 and a Codicil was added in 1851.

I will have to re-visit this as it is a while since I looked at this file.
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The codicil for the will of Richard Hall was signed 26 Dec 1848 so the man who died the year before clearly can't be the testator! As you said, perhaps a son?

So, where's the death for testator Richard? The will was proved 3 July 1851.
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