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09-05-21, 14:11
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No, no other DNA matches coming down that line. In "shared matches" there are a few 4th-6th cousins, but none have been online for over a year, or have a tree online. I haven't ever found any DNA matches to any Abbotts either. 
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09-05-21, 14:13
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Thanks Crawfie. My James could have been the son/daughter of one of Joseph's siblings, which I think is the most likely, but I just can't find anything out. I have no idea how old James was when Olivia was born. I would imagine younger than 48 though as he was a Private at this point, but then recorded as a Barracks Sergt (decd) on her death certificate. I know he had died by 1880, but other than that, nothing!
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09-05-21, 21:59
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Probably unconnected, but in 1861:
Country Great Britain Record set British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 First name James Last name Janaway Service number 551 Rank Private Unit or Regiment 1st Btn 15th Foot (Yorkshire-East Riding) Regiment stationed at Cork & Curragh Year 1861 National Archives reference WO12 / 3279 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory Regimental & Service Records Collections from Great Britain, UK None But he's 15th not 14th.
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10-05-21, 07:26
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Tom I am assuming you don't have a marriage for James and Sophia from your post, not that it would tell you much but the area they married might. Forgive me if you have said you have a marriage. Last edited by maggie_4_7; 10-05-21 at 08:12.
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10-05-21, 08:06
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Probably a total red herring because from my searches on Scotland's People Olivia's husband was Thomas Kerr but I suppose he could be second husband.
But putting in the thread for information might be a clue. The Olivia here is very young, it's messy because there is no tabulation. First name(s) Olivia Last name Jannaway Birth year 1851 Age 18 Marital status Spinster Marriage year 1869 Marriage date 26 Jul 1869 Father's first name(s) James Henry Father's last name Jannaway Father's occupation Clerk Spouse's first name(s) Martin Spouse's last name Meskell Spouse's birth year 1838 Spouse's age 31 Spouse's occupation Sergeant Spouse's condition Bachelor Spouse's father's occupation Shoemaker First witness James Velly Second witness Fanny Feard Marriage place Gillingham, St Mark County Kent Country England Archive Medway Archives Archive reference P153E/1/9 Register type Marriages Year range 1866-1876 Page 52 Record set Kent Marriages And Banns Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain Last edited by maggie_4_7; 10-05-21 at 08:15.
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10-05-21, 08:40
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Bride's age 19.Her father's name is transcribed as Henry and surname Shannon! So same person but is the original Olivia in Scotland someone else entirely or has her father's name got mixed up! Need to see original image to check transcription! Checked image definitely Henry Shannon difficult to read Rank but of the 14th Regiment of Foot. Last edited by maggie_4_7; 10-05-21 at 08:46.
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10-05-21, 09:07
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Is the Indian marriage an original document with signatures, or a registered copy? I could argue Jannaway was mistranscribed as Shannon.
Completely failing to find Olivia's father, which makes me wonder if he died in service. I hate army records - they seem much more difficult to follow than naval records. The way forward might be to find out where the 14th was stationed. Of course James may well have died well before 1861 and Sophia remarried and Olivia travelled round the world with a stepfather.
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10-05-21, 09:16
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First name(s) Olivia Last name Meskell Marriage year 1871 Marriage date 20 May 1871 Spouse's first name Thomas Spouse's last name Kerr Place Calcutta Presidency Bengal Groom's age 31 Bride's age 19 Groom's father's first name Thomas Groom's father's last name Kerr Bride's father's first name Henry Bride's father's last name Shannon Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948 Archive reference N-1-136 Folio number 77 Entry number - Record set British India Office Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from Great Britain, UK None
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10-05-21, 09:38
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Yes!
I have found the same problem with Scottish records. Because the marriages are copies, it offers the opportunity for transcription errors to creep in, like we see on censuses, where the enumerator has made mistakes.
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