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Old 26-04-21, 13:49
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Default Richard Blechynden White - maternal ancestors

This is the marriage of William White to Maria Beal in 1834:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...2F00020951%2F2


The witnesses Pamela Charity Newman and John Street subsequently married and may well have been friends, rather than relations.


Maria appears to have been the daughter of John Beal:


https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...BAP%2F00057303


She is baptised 30 August 1813. John is a seamn of Spring Street, and no mother is mentioned.


This appears to be her parents' marriage: John Beal to Mary Stroud in October 1812


https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...2F00027317%2F1


The witnesses were Emma Sexton, who could write, but of whom I find no further mention, and James Bridger, who may have been the James who married Sophia Saxey at St Marys Portsea in 1822. He was a seaman, living in 1842 in Chance Row.


John and Mary then vanish from the scene. John had been a widower when he married. I can find no other children for them, nor their deaths.


Anyone have any better luck?
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Old 26-04-21, 15:43
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I haven't got a sub to FMP, so where was Maria baptised, and where did John Beal and Mary Stroud get married?
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Portsea for both. Find My Past is so good for Portsmouth, but of course decent baptism and burials only start in 1813, and the navy and dockyard sucked people in from all over the place.
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I was looking through some public family trees for Maria on Ancestry and thinking they were all wrong about her parents, but one has the death of her mother Mary as 4 Jan 1852 Weymouth and Melcombe Regis, Dorset, with the informant on the death cert being a Jane Stroud of 5 West Street, Melcombe Regis. The age at death of this Mary being 67.
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There are a few Mary Beales of the right age around that area on the 1851 census, but this one seems to have had a husband named John because there is a Phillis Beale baptism 6 Jul 1823 Wyke Regis, Dorset, daughter of John and Mary:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ce&pId=5575640

6 East Row, Weymouth, Dorset
Mary Beale Head Widow 66 Monthly Nurse Dorset Portland
Philis Do Daur U 27 Laundress Do Weymo
Mary Ann Do Daur U 25 Plain Worker Do Do
James Martin Grandson 8 Scholar Do Do.

There are a few Jane Strouds. This one is at 15 West Street:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ce&pId=5572823

and another at 17 West Street:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ce&pId=5572834
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This is John and Mary Beale in 1841, but of course we still don't know whether they are the right John and Mary! John is a shipwright. He is somewhat older than Mary, which would fit with him being a widower when they married.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ce&pId=4891051
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It gets more complicated.

There is a John Beale of West Itchenor whose boat went down in 1841 when he and two sons drowned. His first wife was Jane Stroud, so he and Mary might well have married away from their native village. Mary's first child was illegitimate, but her second was born about the same time as my Maria (the images are on Family Search for West Itchenor)

This suggests that I have the wrong marriage and I have no idea who Maria's mother was!
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For reference

1841 - born in county
Stephen Beale fisherman aged 77 plus female relations Oyster St
William Beale HM Customs aged 73 plus Ruth aged 61 East St
William Beale victualler aged 71 plus Ann 56 and large family Roebuck Tavern Broad St
James Beale mariner aged 30 pus Francis aged 32 ditto and children, Smith's Court East Street
Edward Beale pilot aged 48 pilot plus Martha aged 50 Broad Street
Benjamin Beale aged 44 fisherman plus Hannah 35 and children East Street
William Beale 40 labourer plus Harriett 33 Tipner

1841 - not born in county
William Beal aged 45 Navy P Hawk St

East Street, Broad Street, Oyster Street are all very close to each other.
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Charles Beale married 1831 in St Thomas and a witness was Wm White:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...2F00052539%2F1
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Charles is another mystery. He also is a seaman. He and Sarah had two children: George, who died as a baby, and Sarah Ann. But after 1835 I can find nothing of any of them.

This may be the way in, but I'll have to look at ships musters for HMS St Vincent to find out.
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