James Jefferies (Week 5 - FFFFMF)

[Merry]

All baptised at Mangotsfield:

Jane Elizabeth 1829
Jane 17 Oct 1830
Ellen 3 Jul 1842
Elizabeth 3 Jul 1842
Joseph 25 Apr 1847
Martha 25 Apr 1847

1841:

Soundwell, Mangotsfield

Name....Age....All Yes


James Jefferies 35 land surveyor
Lydia Jefferies 30
Jane Jefferies 10
William Jefferies 8
Robert Jefferies 4
Elizabeth Jefferies 1

There's a possible for Jane b 1830 on the 1851 census. I haven't been able to find another Jane of the same age bap around the same time. The Jane I saw was b Mangotsfield, a servant with a dau, also Jane, aged 1.

[Merry]

Name: James Jefferies
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1829
Marriage Place: St.Augustine-The-Less, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Spouse: Lydia Bryant
FHL Film Number: 1596351
Reference ID: 2:3JS6MQB

I seem to recall Jane was with a family called Bryant, so they could have been relations. On the other hand, Bryant is another Smith-like name in that area!

[Merry]

Martha 25 Apr 1847

Martha was probably born in 1844 (reg)

[Merry]

I think I'm going to accept the first few children as belonging to my James and Elizabeth (Sandill), but I can't say what happened next at the moment - just that James died in 1831. I can't be sure of Elizabeth's death.

I did think perhaps I should buy the marriage cert for Francis Jefferies and his wife Jane (probably very soon before 1851) as knowing his father's occ might tell me something, but I can't see the marriage.

EDIT: Ah, it's in Cheshire (where she was from)


Marriages Mar 1850

Faulkner Ann Runcorn 19 190
Fletcher Susanna Runcorn 19 190
Hulse Jane Runcorn 19 190 <<<<<<<<<<<
Jefferies Francis Runcorn 19 190 <<<<<<<
Price Thomas Runcorn 19 190
Wilkinson Joseph Runcorn 19 190

[Merry]

Oooh another lead!!

I was looking for William Sandill Jefferies (b 1807) and found him with his family in 1841 in Mangotsfield and look at the surname of the head of house!

Sarah Amsbury 75
William Jefferies 30
Jemima Jefferies 35
Eliza Jefferies 12
Thomas Jefferies 10
Joseph Jefferies 8
Emma Jefferies 6
Jemima Jefferies 4
Henry Jefferies 3

and William is a tailor!

[Merry]

Name: Sarah Amesbury

Burial Date: 2 Mar 1848

Burial Place: Mangotsfield, St James, Gloucestershire, England

Burial Age: 85

[Merry]

It would seem she is the widow of Richard Amesbury and amongst others they had a dau Betsey in 1800. She could possibly be the Elizabeth Amesbury who married one of the James Jefferies in 1821.

If it was the right James Jefferies () then Sarah would be step-grandmother to William Jefferies who was living with her in 1841.

Time to get out the copies of the marriage entries........ *delves*

[kiterunner]

The Francis Jefferies / Jane Hulse marriage in 1850 is listed on Cheshire BMD at Runcorn, All Saints.

[kiterunner]

And the parish register entry for Francis Jefferies' marriage is on FMP, showing his father to be James Jeffries, Auctioner.

[Merry]

Thanks Kate.

I just looked at the various sigs on the marriage copies I have, but they are all pretty much the same!

The only thing is, as I mentioned before, if Elizabeth Amesbury married James Jefferies and ten years later married Thomas Drake, she went from making her mark to signing her name, but I know that can happen.

I need another lead........