Mary FFFFFM

[Shona]

Originally Posted by Lynn the Forest Fan

There are a few trees with her on, some giving New Holland as place of birth & others giving Louth, some with parents & some without. The pics are on a few trees & seem to have been copied from one to another, so it is hard to see where they originated.

Cut and paste a message to each tree owner!

[Shona]

Here are the Longstaffe family in 1861 livnig in Keelby. In this both Thomas and Betsy are recorded as being born in Louth.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...d&pid=21965571

Free is there and Benjamin Smith Longstaff(e) is down as Smith.

[Shona]

Here are the Longstaff family in 1871 - living in Wootton.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...26pgplz0q3dpid

Hannah married in New Zealand in 1875.

[Lynn the Forest Fan]

I found Free in 1851 with his paternal grandparents, but interestingly enoguh the ancestry trees don't seem to have found that census record.

[Shona]

I noticed that there were twins on the Ancestry trees - Charles and Isaac. Betsy Longstaff nee Smith had a twin, Diana, didn't see?

The Longstaff John tree owned by carolynsarten has recently added (June this year) pics of the twins when young and when they were 90. This is the tree that looks the best sourced, too.

Also noticed that name Free appearing in subsequent generations in NZ.

Not sure why they didn't pic up the 1851 census. Perhaps they didn't make the connection and search using Free as one of the search criteria. Smith can be a bit daunting!

[Lynn the Forest Fan]

I didn't notice any other twins, although we don't know for sure that Betsy was a twin, they might have just been baptised at the same time. I will have a look at that tree & try & contact her

[Shona]

Forgot to post this snippet found while googling Taranaki, where the Longstaffs settled in NZ.

'Waite, Andrea; Sarten, Carolyn (c.2000), Tom & Betsy Longstaff and descendants, 1827-1990, Waitara, [N.Z.]: Longstaff Family Reunion Committee'

Also found this on Google Books.

Tom & Betsy Longstaff and Descendants, 1827-1990
Publisher: Longstaff Family Reunion Committee, 1990

The Waitara Genealogy and History Project have an indexed Longstaff tree. Might be worth contacting them. Here's the link.

http://www.waitarahistory.org.nz/index.html

[Shona]

This is an account of the Halcione arriving in New Zealand in 1875. The Longstaffs are named.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....d/halcione.htm

[Lynn the Forest Fan]

Thats interesting Shona, that is why there are so many photos etc on the ancestry trees. I have heard from the lady with the phoytos of the twins & she was very interested to here about John Free Smith as it explained Betsy calling her first son Free. I will be replying later

[Shona]

That's wonderful, Lynn! Crossing my fingers that it's the right family, but it's looking good. Keep us posted of any developments.