the rylances of pemberton
 

hi ,i am researching the rylance ancestry going back for a relative. from arthur stanley rylance born 1910 to ellen gertrude rylance nee allerton amped james rylance . james married ellen in 1909 in pemberton . there are a few rylances in pemberton , so just trying to deduce which family is his ? James was born around 1884 in pemberton . any help would be gratefully received

The marriage is on Lan-opc.I

23 October 1909 St John the Divine, Pemberton.

James Rylance 25 bachelor, 9 Norley Rd Pemberton, father James Rylance engine winder
Ellen Gertrude Allerton 25 spinster housemaid 786 Ormskirk Rd Pemberton, father Edward Allerton, farmer deceased.
Wits William Allerton, Martha White.

OC

hi ,old crone , thanks that fits , as the allerton s are some relations o the rylances by marriage . thanks

I am looking for the family of james , there are a few family's of rylances,in pemberton it deducing the right family ,

In 1901 James is with his parents, James (engine winder) and Sarah in Pemberton.

Their eldest child is Agnes aged 21.

Back to 1881:

Agnes aged 1 is with the same parents. Their only child at this point.

RYLANCE, AGNES FAWKES
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 125

RYLANCE, JAMES FAWKES
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 115

James Rylance (engine winder, bachelor) b abt 1858 m 29 Sep 1879 Pemberton, St John The Divine to Sarah Fawkes. Fathers, James Rylance and Benjamin Fawkes (shoemaker).

I'm not too sure of James senrs occupation on the marriage cert, which could be crucial as there's more than one James born about the same time in a similar area with father James. I did notice one of them has a mother Agnes though, so I'm more drawn to that James.

Maybe someone else could look at James senr's occ?

I think it could be butcher.

Lan-opc has trascribed it as Dataler which was something to do with coalmining.

OC

Could be that. I'd never heard of that word before.

A datler , was paid by the day in the mines to do jobs .

I agree with you merry that you are drawn to james and sarah fawkes . when i looked at them it seemed the most likely . than the others .