Elizabeth Saunders Powell
Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Elizabeth Saunders Powell Date and place of birth 28th June 1846 Bigbury, Devon Names of parents William Powell & Mary (Saunders) Date and place of baptism - if applicable unknown Details of each of his or her marriages - if any 27th September 1866 at Newton Abbot Registry Office to John Horwell Occupation(s) - if any 1861 - House servant at age 14 Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on. 1851 - Bigbury Village, Devon 1861 - 44 Brownston Street, Modbury, Devon 1871 - South Knighton, Devon 1872 - Ingsdon Higher Lodge, Ilsington, Devon 1881 - Lower Lodge, Ilsington, Devon 1891 - Ingsdon Lodge, Ilsington, Devon Her husband is on the 1901 in Bickington but she's not there. I don't have a death ref for her. The 1902Q1 ref is not her :( Date, place and cause of death unknown Date and place of burial / cremation. unknown Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable unknown Memorial inscription - if any unknown |
Is this the one we spent ages looking for a few weeks ago?
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Was she on the 1911 census or do you think she had died by then? |
Yes - this is the one !!
He is on the 1901 - RG13 2054 folio 31 p as 'Married' So she's probably somewhere. I haven't got him on the 1911 but he didn't die until 1922 I don't know when she died :( |
In 1911 John Horwell has Elizabeth b Bigbury with him, but she is only 54. Presumably seeing the actual page would help with this as she should say how long she and John have been married.
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Oh lol If I put in 1866 as the marriage year for the 1911 (plus or minus a couple) she still comes up, so she's admitting to being married at age 9 or 10!! Maybe her age has been mistranscribed?
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If John died in Newton Abbot district then I'd go for this possible:
Deaths Mar 1927 Horwell Elizabeth 77 Newton A. 5b 185 If you haven't got his death cert then you could do so to see if Elizabeth registered the death. |
The image for the 1911 census shows:
John Horwell 65 Head Farm labourer Elizabeth Horwell 64 Wife Mary Horwell Daughter 43 Single Emily Gross Daugther 29 Married Wife of Tin miner Bertha Horwell Daughter 23 Single Deformed from birth It says they have been married for 44 years with 7 children, 6 of whom are still alive. Poor Bertha. |
That's a better age for Elizabeth Horwell!
Poor Bertha, as you say. I see in 1911 it says 'at school' for her occ and nothing in the end column. I wonder if this is her death? Name: Bertha P Horwell Death Registration Month/Year: 1935 Age at death (estimated): 48 Registration district: Newton Abbot Inferred County: Devonshire Volume: 5b Page: 173 though she didn't have a middle initial at birth. I don't see a marriage of a Horwell to a Bertha P anything, nor a marriage for a Bertha Horwell to someone else. |
I have submitted a correction for Elizabeth Horwell's age on the 1911 census so hopefully it will show up correctly in the transcription before long!:)
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