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Margaret in Burton
14-09-09, 11:29
This is niece's hubby's tree again

Can't name names as at least 3 of these people are still alive.

I have a marriage in 1923 in Godstone, Surrey. He was in the Grenadier Guards so perhaps why they move around so much.

Not common names and the only one on the whole of Ancestry or FreeBMD with that combination of surnames marrying.

I have found five children.

1: Dec qtr 1923, Mere, Wiltshire

2: Dec qtr 1930, Chelsea, London

3: Mar qtr 1931, Dorchester, Wiltshire

4: Jun qtr 1937, Derby

5: Jun qtr 1947, Burton

All the same mothers maiden name.

2, 4 and 5 certain same family as they are known about in the family

Number 1 is as well as there is a christening on Ancestry that confirms the parents (dad has a very unusual first name, the same as child number 2- the only ones listed from 1837-2005)

Child number 3 is my problem. I know it's the next quarter to number 2 but a different district. I know we could get the birth cert but this family is proving so complicated that it's going to cost a fortune anyway by the look of it, so trying to economise where possible.

My question is: Could they have been twins but only one was registered in Chelsea and the other in Dorchester in the next quarter?

I have found child number 1 still alive. He may know the answers. I have an address and a phone number, but as the rest of the family don't appear to know he exists he may want to meet his 2 sisters still alive. They believe that their mother was someone else and it's a bit late in the day to tell them different.

Merry
14-09-09, 11:40
My question is: Could they have been twins but only one was registered in Chelsea and the other in Dorchester in the next quarter?


Well in theory a definite No :D. These days I have seen twins born different days and with an ambulance/helicopter taking the mum to a bigger hospital inbetween, but no chance of then then! Children were registered in the place they were born or if the informant found it easier to go to a different reg office, the entry should still appear under the birth district if that was different.

Next possibility is that there has been a hugh **** ** with the GRO/register office transfer of info, but I can't imagine how that could be really (only if something went wrong with the events suggested at the end of my last para).

Other possibilities?? I'll have a think over my mackerel on toast (s'posed to be good for the brains!??) and get back to you afterwards!

Margaret in Burton
14-09-09, 11:56
Thanks Merry

I did forget to mention that mum was from Wiltshire.

kiterunner
14-09-09, 12:49
It could be that the mother of child 3 had been married before her marriage to child 3's father, in which case her surname for the second marriage registration wouldn't be the same as her maiden name. Or they could have got married in a different country, or not got married at all.

Margaret in Burton
14-09-09, 12:57
It could be that the mother of child 3 had been married before her marriage to child 3's father, in which case her surname for the second marriage registration wouldn't be the same as her maiden name. Or they could have got married in a different country, or not got married at all.

I know you are right Kate.

I have been trying to follow through with child 3 to perhaps find a marriage etc but nothing that jumps out at me. I have found children and grandchildren for child 1.

Merry
14-09-09, 13:22
Thanks Merry

I did forget to mention that mum was from Wiltshire.

Dorchester isn't very near Wiltshire, despite what Ancestry tell you!

Margaret in Burton
14-09-09, 14:23
Dorchester isn't very near Wiltshire, despite what Ancestry tell you!

Oooh so it isn't. :o:o

Mind you, with him being in the army they could have been anywhere.

Merry
14-09-09, 15:21
And as OH said, there are barracks at Dorchester :mad:

I still don't think they can be twins. I think you should look for the death of child 2 and note the date given for his birth :rolleyes: (that's if he is dec'd of course :rolleyes::rolleyes:;)) I doubt you will find it's even within six weeks of Q1 1931!

Jennifer Eccles
14-09-09, 15:26
I don't know if this is any help but would it be possible to see where the regiment Barracks were, do you know which company he was in? there are Barracks in Wiltshire.

Margaret in Burton
14-09-09, 15:54
I only know he was in the Grenadier Guards Jen, no more

Margaret in Burton
14-09-09, 15:56
And as OH said, there are barracks at Dorchester :mad:

I still don't think they can be twins. I think you should look for the death of child 2 and note the date given for his birth :rolleyes: (that's if he is dec'd of course :rolleyes::rolleyes:;)) I doubt you will find it's even within six weeks of Q1 1931!


It's child 3 who is the mystery child Merry. We know child 2 died in 1978. That's niece's hubby's great grandfather.

Margaret in Burton
14-09-09, 16:01
Merry

I've sent you a pm.

Olde Crone
14-09-09, 16:02
That's a fair old spread of births - 5 children over 24 years.

Are you SURE the mother was the same woman throughout and not, um, the first wife's sister maybe?

OC

Merry
14-09-09, 16:11
That's a fair old spread of births - 5 children over 24 years.

Are you SURE the mother was the same woman throughout and not, um, the first wife's sister maybe?

OC

Could it be that some were born in between, abroad?

Merry
14-09-09, 16:13
It's child 3 who is the mystery child Merry. We know child 2 died in 1978. That's niece's hubby's great grandfather.

Yes, I was thinking child two would need to have been born near the end of the quarter for child three to have been registered in Q1 1931, but I don't think he was (end of Nov, which of course IS less than six weeks before the end of the quarter! *adjusts fingers*)

kiterunner
14-09-09, 16:20
If child two was a twin, then his birth certificate would have the time of birth on it.

Margaret in Burton
14-09-09, 16:20
That's a fair old spread of births - 5 children over 24 years.

Are you SURE the mother was the same woman throughout and not, um, the first wife's sister maybe?

OC

OC

I have the birth cert for child 4, still living.

The christening for child 1, still living in on Ancestry, same parents.

Child 2 is dead, but has such a distinctive name that it would identify all of them. There are only 2 of that name, father and son.

kiterunner
14-09-09, 16:23
If the mother was born in 1901 then she would be 46 when the last child was born in 1947, certainly possible.

Margaret in Burton
14-09-09, 16:29
I've just sent Merry the full story.

I'll PM it to Kate and OC as well.