The Rev Ernest James Vincent CAVEY

[marquette]

Originally Posted by KiwiChris

Lillian Maud WORSSELL was nee PARSONS, so the FOSTER marriage must have been a second marriage for her. I had seen his NOK listed somewhere as Lily FOSTER and I wondered who she was but had not looked further.
I had not looked in the Aussie archives, so I will have a look at his service record and see if I can get anything more from there. Thanks

Lilliam married (i) 1899 Edmund WORSSELL.

In the 1911 census for Redhill Surrey, Lilian is with her son Edmund Bernard age 5 and daughter Grace Hilda,11 - and boarder John Thomas Foster, aged 22.
Theres a story there, for sure, but not relative to this inquiry.

[Olde Crone]

Kate

Sorry, it was late when I posted and I didn't explain. I didn't mean the 1900 birth was him, I meant that the information on his gravestone that he was the loved son of Hermand Sackville was slightly wrong and should probably have read Herbrand. My thinking is that the father of Herbrand born 1900 was probably Ernest's father too, because it is an almighty coincidence if not. How else would a name like that be remembered and be important enough to go on his gravestone? Even though it was slightly wrong!

Of course, I could be barking up the wrong tree. Again.

OC

[Olde Crone]

Or maybe Hermand Parsons, born 1873, is something to do with it!

OC

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Olde Crone

Or maybe Hermand Parsons, born 1873, is something to do with it!

OC

Who married an Ellen, but after Ernest was born.

If, by WW1, Ernest is naming his foster mother as next of kin, it suggests that he had no contact with his birth parents. He was presumably left with the Parsons when he was a baby. They may have known as little about his real parents as we do. There's no guarantee that Ernest was his birth name, while Cavey reminds me of havey-cavey, which could have been a phrase the foster parents used.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Who married an Ellen, but after Ernest was born.

I lie. That was the other marriage on the page. Hermand married an Amy Brindley.

[Olde Crone]

Phoenix

One of the reasons this thread caught my eye and triggered my imagination, is because it reminds me of a similar thread on another forum, where the aristocrats dealt discreetly with their illegitimate offspring by fostering them with either a poor relative or a trusted employee - a nurserymaid in this case. It was obvious from the change in circumstances of the nurserymaid that money was being supplied. The birth of that child was not registered, or at least, not in any identifiable form, but of course, money always talks, so could easily just not have been registered. Similar time, late 1800s. The child did know some details of his father's family but they were mangled, unusual names not quite right etc. (The nurserymaid was not the birth mother).

OC

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by Olde Crone

Kate

Sorry, it was late when I posted and I didn't explain. I didn't mean the 1900 birth was him, I meant that the information on his gravestone that he was the loved son of Hermand Sackville was slightly wrong and should probably have read Herbrand. My thinking is that the father of Herbrand born 1900 was probably Ernest's father too, because it is an almighty coincidence if not. How else would a name like that be remembered and be important enough to go on his gravestone? Even though it was slightly wrong!

Of course, I could be barking up the wrong tree. Again.

OC

The father of Herbrand Sackville was Gilbert George Reginald Sackville, according to Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_De_La_Warr

[kiterunner]

And from looking at his divorce papers, Gilbert certainly got around, but there is no mention of anyone who could have been Ernest's mother, so it is possible he was the father but there is no evidence there.