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Oooh, maybe they did have two Margarets:
name: Margaret Wilson gender: Female baptism/christening date: 11 Aug 1850 baptism/christening place: SAINT JOHN,PRESTON,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND death date: 25 Jan 1852 father's name: William Wilson mother's name: Ellen indexing project (batch) number: C00713-5 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 93989 name: Margaret Wilson gender: Female baptism/christening date: 02 Mar 1855 baptism/christening place: Preston, Lancashire, England father's name: William Wilson mother's name: Ellen Wilson indexing project (batch) number: C03685-7 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1278756 Looking again at the 1851 census Margaret looks to be one month which would not fit with the first bap, but it;s possible it says 9 mths! If she was 1 mth then there's no birth reg. There is a death in 1852 to fit, but there are clearly quite a few Margarets to choose from!
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I suppose if the death cert in Q1 1852 proves to be a child of Wm and Ellen then there's a good chance the Ellen on the 1861 is listed as aged 6 and is the one you are looking for.
I briefly looked for Wm and Ellen and/or the other children in 1871 but found nothing conclusive. The only positive match was Oliver who was married with a couple of children.
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I could not trace the 1871 census with her at the reformatory
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Piece 3802, folio 126, page 50.
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Thanks Kate, found it finally (the long way round), was not picking it up via my normal search.
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Her age stays constant in all the census returns I have, i.e.
1881 = 27, 1891 = 37, (don't have the 1901 details here at work) 1911 = 57
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We don't need to worry about that now we know she wasn't born back in 1850ish! We now have her 6 and 15 in 1861 and 1871 respectively.
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Here's the 1851 census:
Nixon's Row, Preston, Lancs William Wilson head m 29 coal yard labourer Ellen Wilson wife m 28 Oliver 8 Jane 5 Grace 3 Margaret 1m (maybe 9mths) All children above are sons and daughters, surname Wilson, everyone b Preston (so that's different to 1861!) The child Margaret above must be the same child as the bap I posted earlier, because on Lancs OPC the family address is transcribed: Baptisms: 11 Aug 1850 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England Margaret Wilson - Child of William Wilson & Ellen Abode: Nixon's Row Occupation: Carter Baptised by: John Kitton Curate Register: Baptisms 1848 - 1850, Page 372, Entry 2976 Source: LDS Film 93988 Annoyingly, burials 1827-1858 are not transcribed yet! There are two versions of the baptism for the younger Margaret: Baptisms: 2 Mar 1855 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England Margaret Wilson - Child of William Wilson & Ellen Abode: Well St Occupation: Carter Baptised by: Certified by W. Walling Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1856, Page 303, Entry 2417 Source: LDS Film 93989 Baptisms: 2 Mar 1855 All Saints, Preston, Lancashire, England Margaret Wilson - Child of William Wilson & Ellen Abode: Kent Street Occupation: carter Baptised by: W. Walling Register: Baptisms 1848 - 1866, Page 66, Entry 526 Source: FHL Film 1544765 There are numerous baptisms for the family on Lancs OPC and one child before Oliver, who is another Margaret. (It's hard to be certain every single entry is for the same family as, out of the whole list, there are only two where the same address is recorded!) If you need Ellen's maiden name it might be easier to get Oliver's birth cert as there is only one to choose from!
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50p says this is the baptism of William Wilson!
Baptisms: 2 Sep 1821 St Cuthbert, North Meols, Lancashire, England William Wilson - Son of Oliver Wilson & Jane Abode: Banks Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: Jos. Docker Curate Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1835, Page 117, Entry 935 Source: LDS Film 1068944 You can tell I should be taking down the Christmas decs and am putting it off - now it's time for the school run!!
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Thanks Merry, when I previously tried to track Margaret's parents, there were a number to choose from but an Ellen with the Maiden name Nightingale stood out as she seemed to have alot of children, when you mentioned Oliver earlier it occured to me that I had looked up most of these births and kept a record (11 so far all registered in Preston). I just have not been certain that this is the correct Margaret as there are a number of them. So if this is the correct Margaret, I at least have some ground work done with regards to her siblings and mother's maiden name.
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