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Old 10-06-22, 10:18
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The Ellen Sherlock born 6 November 1905 dies a spinster in Dec 1997 in Sefton North, according to Ancestry. Aged 92.
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I was bothered that the mother was born in 1905 and was having an illegitimate child when aged over 30. Not at all impossible of course; one of my aunties did exactly that in the same era, but still it's less usual than a younger woman. However, the idea that a widow might become pregnant in her 30s seems more plausible and also this Skerries business on the birth cert implies an Irish connection.

Skerries does not appear to be a surname at all, looking at the English/Welsh and Irish GRO indexes! So, I'm thinking Joanne Skerries is an address in Skerries!
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There's a marriage of a John Moles to an Ellen Sherlock in 1927 in Ireland. The couple give Skerries as their address.
Well I didn't expect that -

1911 census has Joseph and Ruth and all the children together

so it is not Joanne in front of Skerries - it really is bad writing
all that info is in the column occupation of father .
so do you think Ellen left Liverpool to go over to Dublin and marry John Moles - John died and she came back home with the baby - or are you thinking it is a different Ellen Sherlock ? the 2 sisters DID SAY they thought she was Irish .
what A FOOL i HAVE BEEN ?? BACK TO 1802 WITH THE WRONG FAMILY PROBABLY ...**** at this me ...lol
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Allan, what does it say in the "when and where born" column?
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Hmmm...this Ellen died 4 May 1959 in Skerries.
Merry - Elizabeth - you are good - just spoke to the sisters
Ellen - they are convinced was Irish
John died - Ellen became pregnant
came to Liverpool to have the baby and Johns family didn't know about the baby
that address is not Hall Grove Road - but Waldgrove Road - in Wavertree Liverpool - they are convinced Ellen went back home to Skerries - so it looks like you are spot on - they want to know -Ellen married 1927 to John Moles - THEIR MUM IS DEAD - DIED YOUNG - Alice Mary Moles born 6th March 1936 - 9 years after the marriage - did John and Ellen have any other children in those 9 years ???
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We can't post details of any other children born to John and Ellen in case they are still living, Allan, but could send details in a PM.
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Allan, I have sent you a PM with info about 2 births.
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what A FOOL i HAVE BEEN ?? BACK TO 1802 WITH THE WRONG FAMILY PROBABLY ...**** at this me ...lol

I doubt whether there is anyone on these boards who hasn't done the same. And I have one or two lines where I still have secret niggles.
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Allan, what does it say in the "when and where born" column?
Sorry Kate - I have just given them the 2 birth certificates back ??
so can't remember
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Old 10-06-22, 12:20
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I still have the images in front of me for Ellen Sherlock birth cert, Ellen S and John Moles marriage cert and death certs for them both. It would be easier to email them to you than post them on this board, if you haven't yet seen them. Is your email still your name and then btinternet.com?
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