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Old 10-12-13, 14:19
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Oooh, that George and Isabel Yates on the 1851 census have a Roger Duxbury age 32 with them, brother-in-law to George, so I think that settles it!
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Is that the Isabella Yates who is lodging with Thomas Duxbury at the Cross in 1861?

She may have applied for admon because she stood to gain, whereas the closer members of the family didn't have any financial interest in winding up Edmund's affairs.

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Yes, it looks like the same Isabel(la). Though of course there could be another Isabel Yates in the family.
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Isabel married George Yates in 1832, wonder if that was the trigger to obtaining admon?

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Isabel married George Yates in 1832, wonder if that was the trigger to obtaining admon?
That's interesting, OC. That 1832 marriage is on ancestry in the Manchester Marriages: Bolton le Moors, George Yates, otp, bachelor, and Elizabeth Duxbury, otp, spinster, married by banns 5 Mar 1832, witnesses John Yates and James Liptrot (serial witness). But if that is George and Isabella, then Isabella wasn't even a Yates in 1831 when admon was granted, so maybe it is a different Isabel Yates after all.
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Yes, and I have just come across another George Yates and Isabella, I think - this couple in Entwistle!

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Lancashire OPC has a marriage between a Joseph Yates, weaver, bachelor, of the parish of Blackburn, and Isabel Holden, spinster, of the same parish, 23 Apr 1810 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn. One of Alice Holden's sisters was an Isabel, baptised 18 May 1788, so I wonder whether that could be her? Will see if the image is on ancestry.
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No, doesn't seem to be. They have loads of Blackburn parishes but not that one.
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But these baptisms of children of Joseph and Isabel Yates look good (again from Lancs OPC):
Edmund Yates 2 Jun 1811 St James Darwen, abode Over Darwen
Sarah Yates 12 Sep 1813 St James Darwen, abode Over Darwen, occupation weaver
Joseph Yates 23 Jun 1820 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, abode Entwistle, occupation weaver
George Yates 1 Feb 1822 St Anne, Turton, abode Entwisle, occupation weaver
Isabel Yates 26 Jul 1826 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, abode Entwistle, occupation weaver
Robert Yates 4 Sep 1829 St Anne, Turton, abode Entwisle, occupation weaver
Betty Yates 30 Dec 1832 Trinity Church, Over Darwen, abode Entwistle, occupation weaver.

So it looks likely that the Isabel Yates of Entwistle who was granted administration of Edmund Holden's estate in 1831 is his daughter, not granddaughter.

It would be neat if the George Yates who married Isabella Duxbury was the son of Joseph and Isabella, which would make him a cousin of Isabella Duxbury, but the ages don't fit.
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On the 1851 census Joseph Yates is a widower so that would explain the need for a second grant of administration.
And on the 1841 census Joseph's wife Isabella is 53 which fits with the baptism of Isabella Holden.
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