Alice Holden - Page 5 - Genealogists' Forum

kiterunner · #41 08-12-13, 21:55

Thanks very much, OC. Sorry, I misunderstood your "Edmund Holden, born before 1765, Grimehills" to mean that was where he was born.

kiterunner · #42 08-12-13, 22:04

OC, I was wondering about this baptism that is on Lancs OPC:
Neddy Holden, son of John and Mary, baptised 9 Dec 1758, St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, abode Lower Darwen. Do you know whether he can definitely be ruled out?

Olde Crone · #43 08-12-13, 22:17

I'll check, Kate - I remember something about a Neddy, lol.

I am back to thinking that Edmund and Briggs WERE related. Briggs' parents were Thomas Holden and Jane Briggs and several of their children married Roger Duxbury's siblings. Speculation!

OC

Olde Crone · #44 08-12-13, 22:34

I can't rule Neddy in or out I'm afraid. It would be very nice if he had been the son of John and Mary of Over Darwen because then that would make him Briggs' cousin, but he was born much in advance of that marriage and I doubt he is theirs.

OC

kiterunner · #45 08-12-13, 22:43

Thanks for looking.

Olde Crone · #46 10-12-13, 10:07

Kate, there is a Will for Edmund Holden dated 1831, later grant 1853. I'm not sure how much help that might be, although ownership of the land might be a clue to his parentage.

(Lancs Wills index)

EDIT - of course, if Edmund DID die in 1817, this might not be his Will. I assume the date given in the index is when the Will was proved?

OC

kiterunner · #47 10-12-13, 13:24

Yes, the date on the index is when it was proved. There is an Edmund Holden buried 1827 but his abode is Blackburn. I will have a look on the Index to Death Duty Registers and see if it says who the executor was.

kiterunner · #48 10-12-13, 13:43

Ooh, interesting - administratrix Isabel Yates in 1831(yes, sadly it is an admon rather than a will), but any idea where she lived? I can only make out that the last part of it is "Lancaster".

I can't see an entry in the Index to Death Duty Registers for 1853 but maybe the death duties had been paid first time round.

ElizabethHerts · #49 10-12-13, 13:56

Is it Entwistle?

or Entwisle

kiterunner · #50 10-12-13, 14:07

Thanks, Elizabeth, I was about to come to the same conclusion after looking at the 1851 census! There is an Isabel Yates age 42, wife of George, living at Entwistle. So could be Isabella Duxbury but would a granddaughter have been granted administration when there were older relatives still alive? Maybe there is another Isabel(la) Yates in the family though.