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Old 22-01-10, 22:23
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Default the elusive William Gray 1811-1858

William is the gt x 3 grandfather I know least about. He is missing from 1841 and 1851, died before 1861. His son John described him as a "fisherman" on his 1867 marriage cert but this isn't what is recorded elsewhere.

William Gray
born 02 Oct 1811 and
baptised 6 Oct 1811, Hardley, Norfolk
Parents: William Gray & Mary

1841
William doesn't appear though his wife Susan and eldest son also William are in Langley Road, Hardley. Its possible that he was fishing.

1851
Langley Road, Hardley, Norfolk
Susan Gray describes herself as "railway labourer's wife" and is living with her 4 sons and a male lodger. No sign of William. The railway from Norwich to Reedham opened 1844,and from Reedham to Lowestoft, 1847. The line to Yarmouth opened 1882, so not clear whether William would have been working on this or not. There are no nearer lines.

Since William died and was buried in Limpenhoe, I assume the family moved there some time between 1851 and 58.

Death 30 Jul 1858, Limpenhoe, age 46. Cause of death: chronic laryngytis (throat cancer?) Death cert has him as an agricultural labourer. Informant is another ag lab, no family connection.

Burial: 03 Aug 1858 age 46
p.23 # 177 Limpenhoe burial register. Officiating minister: Henry Leathes Carteret.

Gravestone (seen 8 Aug 2009) reads "In memory of William Gray, died 30th July, 1858, aged 46 years. Is not this [beloved/blessed?] old creed out of the pure [?] ECH III 2

Link to gt grandfather: http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...ead.php?t=2728
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It's rather out in terms of DOB, Nell, but there is a patient in hospital in Great Yarmouth. It says he is born in Great Yarmouth but I note that Hardley isn't too far.

William Gray is a sailor born c. 1804

RG number: HO 107 Piece: 1806 Folio:26 Page: 45

Registration District:Yarmouth
Sub District: Southern EnumerationDistrict:
1A Ecclesiastical Parish: St Nicholas

Walls The Hospital, Great Yarmouth County:
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Oh dear, he was working on the railways then, wasn't he?
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William is the gt x 3 grandfather I know least about.
Did you mean gt x 2?!!
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Elizabeth

Thanks for that, I'll check it out now.

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Just a small note - in 1858 there was the first mass epidemic of diphtheria, which affects the throat. I think it's possible that William died of that but it wasn't diagnosed as such, since it wasn't then a well-known disease.
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I know this thread is years old, but this must be the William (in 1841) who was in hospital in 1851:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/89...nSearchResults

His wife is Susannah and they have a son William but also 3 daughters, so not the same William as yours.
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And could the gravestone inscription perhaps say Eccl III 2 rather than ECH III 2? Which would be "A time to be born, and a time to die".
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