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Old 21-03-21, 13:28
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I looked at the 1861 ,census for william , his wife's name ann , it says she was born in Shevington which is about 2 and half miles from pemberton , with children peter 20, james 15 ,sam 11 john 2 and according to the tree there's another girl mary . what are your thoughts . ? thanks
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Old 21-03-21, 13:29
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Ann is William's wife in 1861 and 1871. She is older than Elizabeth and born in a different place, so William may have remarried. You need to examine the GRO birth indexes to see what the mmn is for each child as well as the marriage records for another marriage. I note there are children in the house older than William's first marriage!
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Old 21-03-21, 13:33
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There's a marriage of widower William Cartwright (father Peter) to Ann Twiner or Turner in 1854, so any children born after that should have Ann's surname as the mmn.
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Old 21-03-21, 13:52
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Elizabeth was buried 28 Jan 1853 at Wigan All Saints aged 31.
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Old 21-03-21, 14:04
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yes your right i'll check for births for ann twined turner on lancs bmd thanks
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Old 21-03-21, 14:11
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i found the marriage on lancs bmd to a ann turner , so you have found that he was remarried in1854 . so the mystery is solved of the name . he didn't waste much time after elizabeth died .
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Old 21-03-21, 14:17
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i'll check to see if they had any children .
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Old 21-03-21, 14:46
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peter and james are definetly elizabeth and williams children as they are with them on the 1851.
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Old 21-03-21, 15:00
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I know what you mean as there is a James dickinson in the household. i can't see the where it states relationship Can you see that ?
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Old 21-03-21, 15:07
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James Dickinson is down as lodger on the 1861 census.
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