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Old 26-11-19, 13:55
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Old 26-11-19, 19:05
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Thank you both for your efforts.

Merry - I don't think the Catherine wife of James Quigley is likely, unless you are saying she re-married another Quigley, and had another child Ann by him ?!! I have placed an order for the DC for the Catherine Quigley that Elizabeth identified - so may be able to confirm whether it's the correct one when I receive it.

However, I have also discovered another burial for Catherine Quigley on 28 Aug 1883 in the same cemetery Ford, Liverpool - just a few dozen pages before the other Catherine page 376 ! No age is given or address - it says in the Remarks, 'Coroners Order'. I don't know what that means ?

Elizabeth - the Mary Ann death details you have given could be a likely possibility, as in the Remarks column it says 'South Hospital'......presumably where she died. This hospital was at the end of the street where the family lived in 1851 - so if they were still there in 1858, then it's very close. But, it also says age 'not given' (?) so can't be sure ? Although, she is not shown in the 1871 Census, so would fit (mind you, if she was alive in 1871 she would have been 32 and mostly likely living with her own family if she had one ?).

The other thing about this record is that it shows 5 others with the same grave number - could this have been a paupers public grave ?
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Old 26-11-19, 19:17
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Merry - I don't think the Catherine wife of James Quigley is likely, unless you are saying she re-married another Quigley, and had another child Ann by him ?!! I have placed an order for the DC for the Catherine Quigley that Elizabeth identified - so may be able to confirm whether it's the correct one when I receive it.
That's not what I meant - I said 'there is a different Catherine Quigley....'! There is the death registration in Liverpool in 1883. We don't know yet if it belongs to your Catherine (widow), or this other Catherine Quigley (wife of James and nee Burns) who is in Liverpool in 1881. We haven't found your Catherine in 1881 as yet.
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Old 26-11-19, 20:19
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That's not what I meant - I said 'there is a different Catherine Quigley....'! There is the death registration in Liverpool in 1883. We don't know yet if it belongs to your Catherine (widow), or this other Catherine Quigley (wife of James and nee Burns) who is in Liverpool in 1881. We haven't found your Catherine in 1881 as yet.
Sorry Merry - I misunderstood. At least if I get the DC from those details, there will hopefully be more info.
Btw, the John Quigley death in 1873 was informed by Arthur Quigley (presumably his son)
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Old 27-11-19, 13:27
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Looking at that birth record for Bridget Quigley on the first page - the baptism is in Liverpool but the birth record is in Wirral/Birkenhead. It looks like she was born on 5 Jan 1858, but not baptised until 14 Nov 1858.

She is also shown in the 1871 Census living and being born in Birkenhead, aged 13. So, the family was in Liverpool when John (and Margaret, as twins) was born in 1855 - then moved back to Birkenhead some time after this where Bridget was then born ? But, then they moved back to Liverpool the same year 1858 before she was baptised - or did they just have her baptised where they had lived previously ?

Getting a bit confused and wondering if it's the correct Bridget ?
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Old 27-11-19, 16:09
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I think people often moved much more frequently than we do today, especially if they lived in a large town of city.

There's no other birth registration for a different Bridget Quigley in Q1 1858. Also, no sign of another Quigley family with parents John and Catherine.
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Old 28-11-19, 13:13
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Thanks Merry - I have ordered Bridget Quigley's BC also, so that may tell us more.
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I've received the pdf's of certificates I ordered. The DC of Catherine Quigley shows her as 'widow of John Quigley, labourer' - so the name of her husband is right, but the occupation of labourer doesn't tally with his earlier profession of 'shoemaker' (cordwainer).
The informant is given as Thomas Quigley, son at the same address - which is different to the one the family had in Liverpool before the daughter Bridget was born.
From Bridget's BC (pdf), she was born 23 Jan 1858 at 15 William St., Birkenhead - father John Quigley, shoemaker and mother Catherine Quigley, formerly McClannen.
From daughter Catherine's BC (pdf) she was born 13 June 1851 at 8 Court, New Bird Street, Liverpool (same as at census) - father John Quigley, cordwainer and mother Catherine Quigley, formerly McLennan both of the same address.
So, I think daughters Catherine and Bridget are correct - but, not sure about the death of this Catherine in 1883 with there being a son Thomas, as there is no Thomas shown on the 1871 census - the youngest child being Bridget aged 13.....just 2 years before her father John's death in 1873 ?
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What is the address on the 1883 death cert for Catherine?
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