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Old 21-08-17, 16:50
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You're quite right, Merry, of course. You're always right.

I was just going with gut instinct... for now.

And would these (1904 / 1906) be from the same families?
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Hi , I have come up with a puzzler . My grandfather James Moss was born in Pemberton in approx 1887 , but so was another James moss . I know he married Jane Whalley in approx 1906 at Wigan register office . But I would like to find out which family tree I should follow . It is a puzzler for me as I haven't got a lot of info on him . Any help would be gratefully received. Thanks
The marriage was 1908, not 1906. I reckon you will need to order a copy of the marriage certificate to see his father's name and occupation etc to make sure you follow the right family.
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Can we find a church marriage for the James who married Elizabeth Ann and eliminate one father/family?
Even if we did that, it wouldn't necessarily follow that the James who is left is definitely the right one! Best to get the marriage cert.
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Yes, James and I know YOU are the one who is always right (not me! lol James )

I did wonder if the right James Moss was on the 1939 register that might help, but I couldn't see an obvious match.
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Just to further prove that Kite is right ......

The James Moss who was married to Elizabeth Ann on the 1911 census was the son of John Moss, collier, according to the 1906 entry in the Wigan C of E marriages on Ancestry. So he isn't any of the three men I mentioned earlier from the 1901 census who were apparently born in Pemberton around 1887.

He's none of these.....

James parents George and Margaret b 1885
James parents Thomas and Elizabeth b 1888
James parents James and Margaret b 1888

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Hi , thanks , you seem to be getting some answers , to my question I don't know when my grandfather died , but I presume , it was before 1839 has I think my mother was young when he died . Apparently after he came back from the First World War he was never the same again like so many other soldiers . Maybe I can get the marriage certificate from Wigan and see if it mentions fathers name . I never met him . So the information is difficult , my gran remarried . Later thanks
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There is a James Moss death registered Jul-Sep 1932 Wigan, age 45, which could be him.
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Do you know when your grandmother remarried and/or to who?
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You can order a copy of the marriage cert through this site:

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php

though I see the cost is now £15, so £5 more than through the GRO:

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/#0

The main difference being that the GRO copy won't have original signatures on it.
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Qwackers purchased the 1908 marriage cert for James Moss and Jane Whalley.

She has pm'd me some of the details, but I thought I'd post them here because I don't have time to look right now.

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I have just received the marriage certificate for Jane Whalley and James moss . It states father as being deceased name James . Address given for him is Greenalls yard Chapel st Pemberton . So that address may be a clue , if we can try and find out whom he married and his mothers name.

There is a father ps name with occupation , he was a coal miner . And one of the witnesses is a Richard wright , who I think I have seen on a census earlier . With wife's name , Margeret , which is quite helpful
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