WYLIE family of Glasgow

[James18]

Thanks Kate, well-spotted, although sadly without a surname that won't help us with tracing their marriage on GRONI.

Also, I edited the post re John Wylie. The lady from Ancestry e-mailed me back; her John Wylie was Andrew's uncle not his brother, so we're back to square one with him.

EDIT: The only marriage record on GRONI involving a David Wylie is with a [forename] Reid, February 19th, 1914 in Armagh. If it's the same David Wylie, he must have married at some point between the 1911 census and his death in 1916.

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by James18

however, the mother's maiden name is McAleese, as opposed to McIntyre or McAteer/McAteere as we see with other siblings. These are all clearly variants of McIntyre, whereas McAleese seems a little suspect to me, and on top of that there are further Wylie children born to a McAleese and I suspect it may be a different family. If anyone could confirm this point either way I'd be much obliged.

McAleese could easily be a mistranscription of McAteere. Are you saying that you have viewed the birth cert and everything looks right except for the mother's maiden name, or that you aren't sure whether to view it because of the MMN in the index?

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by James18

EDIT: The only marriage record on GRONI involving a David Wylie is with a [forename] Reid, February 19th, 1914 in Armagh. If it's the same David Wylie, he must have married at some point between the 1911 census and his death in 1916.

According to ancestry and FamilySearch, the matching bride's name for that one is Sarah Reid.

[James18]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

McAleese could easily be a mistranscription of McAteere. Are you saying that you have viewed the birth cert and everything looks right except for the mother's maiden name, or that you aren't sure whether to view it because of the MMN in the index?

No, I haven't viewed Andrew's birth certificate, but I know that he died on July 21st, 1954 and that he was ~72 at the time, which would fit in with the Wylie / McAleese birth index. I also know he was born in Antrim, and that I couldn't find another Andrew Wylie birth at the right sort of time.

However, if you search GRONI for Wylie / McAleese births, there aren't any after Andrew in 1881 until you get to the mid-1890s, from which time there are numerous births.

What do you think? Bearing in mind that, going by the 1911 census, we're only looking for two children who died.

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by James18

However, I would be keen to find the correct Mary Agnes Gillan, as I do not have a birth for her which matches her age on the 1911 census, and she appears here on the 1901 census.

Do you have any information about her family from her marriage cert?

[Shona]

You could try contacting the Preby church in Ballymena as they will do look-ups for baptisms.

http://www.firstballymena.org/church/churchRecords.php

[James18]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Do you have any information about her family from her marriage cert?

No, I don't have that yet. I just got the free information from GRONI, and found his death certificate on SP; on that, she is down as Mary Wylie (widow) and Mary Agnes Gillan on the 'married to' bit.

I did find a birth index for a Mary Elizabeth Agnes Gillin on Ancestry yesterday, but I think that was 1887, so she'd be a bit too old. I suppose it depends how accurate the census records are.

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by Shona

You could try contacting the Preby church in Ballymena as they will do look-ups for baptisms.

http://www.firstballymena.org/church/churchRecords.php

Would Plymouth Brethren have their children baptised at a Presbyterian church?

[James18]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Would Plymouth Brethren have their children baptised at a Presbyterian church?

That was my first thought also.

Tracing Wylies and Hendrys in Canada has been difficult for that very reason; many of them were Plymouth Brethren, and so were often excluded from the primarily Roman Catholic Drouin Collection.

Has to be worth a try, though.

[Shona]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Would Plymouth Brethren have their children baptised at a Presbyterian church?

I remember now - they were Brethren. As far as I can see from the Ulster Historical Foundation, they have Ballymena Christian Brethren marriages, but not baptisms.

As regards name variants in Ireland, James. It's worth checking the Irish Times surname database. http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/s...on=Go.&UserID=