Caroline Easter Reffell

[Libby9]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Googling brought up a mention from the London Gazette in 1846 of "Greece-street, Tottenham-court-road", and Gresse Street is off a street which is off Tottenham Court Road, while Greek Street is very close too.

Difficult to know which street was being referred to on the marriage cert isn't it? I've taken a trip down Gresse Street but not found any Headland's, Reffell's or Dickens (who were witnesses to the marriage and Henry's brother in law and sister, I think)

[kiterunner]

Another London Gazette hit, from 1834, mentions "Greece-Street, Rathbone-Place", which would be Gresse Street, going by the present-day map.

[vita]

Thanks for your efforts, all. I've been looking at HW's various other addresses in the hope

of a clue, but nothing looks likely. Thanks to his numerous court appearances &

imprisonment his movements are pretty well documented but nothing looks like Greece

St. In 1841 he's in Chapel St, Islington - presumably to be near family after my 2xg

grandmother's death in 1838 left two children under five - & an 1853 summons refers to

him living at 41 West St,New Road, St Pancras,& being late of 39 Seymour St, Euston

Square.In 1833 he was a York Place, Upper St, Islington & had also lived at Frances Place,

Holloway & 8 Moon St, Islington. As well as having rotten luck with wives, he also seems

to have moved around a lot.

Libby - no, Sarah Dickens (Dickins?)wasn't HW's sister. I don't know who the Dickens

they were(sorry!) and although HW's brother did get to know the great Charles around

1842,I don't believe there is a connection there either. Anyway, brother was the

ambitious one - HW was just a humble dyer & scourer.

[Libby9]

Originally Posted by vita

Libby - no, Sarah Dickens (Dickins?)wasn't HW's sister. I don't know who the Dickens they were(sorry!) .

If not Sarah's brother, perhaps a cousin?

There's this marriage at St James, Paddington 2oth June 1830

George Dickins and Sarah Ann Headland, one of the witnesses was HENRY WILLIAM HEADLAND.

[vita]

Originally Posted by Libby9

If not Sarah's brother, perhaps a cousin?

There's this marriage at St James, Paddington 2oth June 1830

George Dickins and Sarah Ann Headland, one of the witnesses was HENRY WILLIAM HEADLAND.

Very interesting, Libby! I haven't come across Sarah Ann before, but you might

just have found something that will make a lot a other things clearer.

HW's father Thomas's parentage was a stubborn brick wall, eventually

identified here as most likely Isaac & Sarah Headland of Uxbridge - your

discovery might well settle that. Plus, there's links to other Headlands in

Uxbridge, Kent & Beds/Northants to tie in - so well done, you clever old thing!

Now, for Sarah Ann .......

[vita]

OK.... looks like Sarah Ann was b abt 1812 in Uxbridge, daughter of William Headland.

Children with George Dickens were George William 1831, Cecilia Jane 1843 (big gap

there) Harriett 1845, Charlotte 1847 & Alice 1850.

Seem to remember a William Headland was a bone of contention for Merry & others when

trying to establish parentage of Thomas Headland b Uxbridge 1786, father of HW.

Off to check that out now - do feel free to pitch in as I'm not that good at this!

[Libby9]

Pleased to see you're progressing, Vita. I've some jobs to do now but will take a look here later.

[vita]

Originally Posted by Libby9

Pleased to see you're progressing, Vita. I've some jobs to do now but will take a look here later.

Thanks Libby. I've been reading through link "A Stubborn Brick Wall" & I was

right about a William. Looking likely HW did have an uncle of that name.

[Libby9]

Originally Posted by vita

OK.... looks like Sarah Ann was b abt 1812 in Uxbridge, daughter of William Headland.!

Vita, have you found a baptism naming her father William?

I ask as if not I'm inclined to think she was the dau of Thomas and Christiana and here's why.

City of London Lying-In Hospital, City Road, Finsbury, baptised 31 Jul 1833
Sarah Christiana Dickens dau of Sarah Ann and George (cabinet maker) abode: N. Road.

Of course the middle name doesn't prove anything but feels more 'right' for Sarah Ann to choose her mother's name,

Oh dear, are we going one step forward and two back!

[Merry]

Originally Posted by vita

Children with George Dickens were George William 1831, Cecilia Jane 1843 (big gap

there) Harriett 1845, Charlotte 1847 & Alice 1850.

From the 1841 census there's also Mary Ann aged 4 and Eliza aged 2.