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Old 16-09-13, 13:38
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Did Laurence marry and / or die in Scotland, Sam, and if so, when?
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I found a Laurence Brodie in Maryport in 1851, aged 26, born Scotland, married to Elizabeth, occupation - locomotive engine fitter. There is a death for a Laurence Brodie in Cockermouth, AMJ 1861.
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I was hoping that Laurence married or died in Scotland after the start of civil registration, Shona, to get confirmation of his father's name from the registration. But even though it looks as if he married before civil registration, it's possible that the marriage entry might give his father's name, isn't it?
Edit - or did he marry in England, in which case the marriage cert should give father's name?
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Aha, the marriage is on FamilySearch:
Laurence Brodie married Elizabeth Moore 27 Jan 1851 at Cross-Canonby, Cumberland, and it gives their fathers' names on there - Robert Brodie and William Moore.
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That fits in with the census records.

1861 Crosscanonby

Elisabeth Brodie, widow, 36
Margaret Brodie, dau, 9
Mary Brodie, dau, 8
Robert Brodie, son, 6
William Brodie, son, 5
Betsey Laura, dau, 2

All recorded as b in Maryport.

1871 Crosscanonby

Elisabeth Brodie, head, 44, chairwoman , b Maryport
Robert Brodie, son, 16, engine smith, b Maryport
William Brodie, son, 15, b Whitehaven
Laurence Brodie, son, 9, scholar, b Maryport
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Going back to Fife...

From 1818 to 1830, five still-born children buried - father Robert Brodie, described as a mariner, sailor and feur. Residence, Dunnikier, Dysart parish.

1841 New Gilston, Largo parish

Thomas Lumsden, 25, coal miner
Elisabeth Lumsden, 25
Henry Lumsden, 2
Janet Lumsden, 5 mo
Laurence Brodie, 15, teacher
Robert Brodie, 45, seaman

All born in county.

FMP has another family recorded along with the Lumsdens and Brodies - the Lockharts.

1841 Mid Street, Dysart

Andrew Weir, 21, linen HLW
Isabella Weir, 21
Christian Brodie, 66, winder
Christian Blythe, 24, winder
Margaret Brodie, 48, winder
Mary Brodie, 16, weaver
Agnes Brodie, 13
Margaret Brodie, 9

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4 April 1845 - Robert Brodie, weaver and sailor, proprietor dwelling house and garden, Mid Street, Pathhead, Dysart

11 Sept 1845 - ditto

2 October 1847, 54-year-old Mgt Brodie, alias Thom., buried. Wife of Robert Brodie, seaman and feur, Dunnikier, Dysart.

1861 Mid Street, Pathhead, Dysart

Robert Brodie, head, 67, weaver, b Pathhead
Elisabeth Brodie, wife, 60, b Dysart
Nancy Brodie, dau, 33, semptress, b Pathhead

Electoral list

1862 - Robert Brodie, weaver, proprietor houses, Mid Street, Pathhead, Dysart

1863 - ditto.

The Margaret Brodie who appears on the 1841 census in Dysart, is on the 1871 census at Queen Anne Street, Marylebone, London, 39, single, personal attendant, b Dysart.
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If you haven't looked up Robert's death certificate yet, Sam, on Scotland's People there is a Robert Brodie death in the Statutory Deaths, 1863, Dysart, Fife, age 70, mother's maiden surname Ritchie. (I didn't view the image, just did a free search. The image would give you more information than this.)
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That should be Robert as it ties in with info on one of the burials of the still-born children.

8 March 1822, still-born child of Robert Brodie, sailor and feur, Dunnikier, Dysart. Grandchild of Marey Ritchy, dcsd
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Old 16-09-13, 16:15
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Hmmm - the death of Robert on SP (son of Mary Ritchie) and the burial of the child (child of Robert and grandchild of Marey Ritchy) means that this Robert is not the Robert who was the son of John Brodie and Isobel Smart (born 25 July 1798 in Dysart and baptised on 5 August).
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Old 16-09-13, 16:31
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Following the Ritchie lead, I've found the following three burials.

Mary Brodie alias Ritc.
Dysart, Dunnikier
Burial 26 September 1804
Age 40
Wife of Alexander Brodie (mariner)
Mother of Walter Brodie (dcsd)

Walter Brodie
Dysart, Dunnikier
Burial 20 June 1792
Age 5-6
Son of Alexr Brodie (hammerman and mariner)
Nephew of Walter Brodie

Walter Brodie
Dysart, Dunnikier
Burial 29 April 1788
Age 72
Hammerman and feuar
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