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Old 16-11-19, 09:51
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Hi , I will do as you suggest see what I come up with thanks
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Old 16-11-19, 11:15
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Here's a good example of how these things can be tricky to work out!

I saw this baptism:

Baptism: 23 Mar 1817 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Calland - 1st. Son of William Calland & Esther
Born: 7 Feb
Abode: Haigh
Occupation: Miner

...and thought the father might be the man bap in 1796, so he wouldn't be your William as yours was a bachelor when he married Cicely.

However, it turns out the father at the above baptism is probably actually named Richard! There is a marriage in 1816 for Richard and Esther and the first of their subsequent male children is recorded as second son. William (b 1817) is with his parents Richard and Esther and the correct siblings in 1841.
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Old 17-11-19, 05:40
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HI , I have looked to see if William and Ann lea had other children , these could be they born in Wigan Ann Calland born1793 Rachel Calland born 1790 Hamlet Calland born 1791 and Robert Calland born 1800 and of course William Calland born 1796 , may be
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I think we established the marriage of William and Ann in 1785 in Wigan .
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If Hamlet is one of there children , I found him , he married a Lydia Caron in Walton on the hill in 1821 , they had these children William 1821 ,Elizabeth 1822 Edward 1825 Mary 1829 ,born around west Derby Liverpool and Walton on the hill . I find the name hamlet unusual ,but it may have been common then .
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Checked the marriage and her name was Eaton ,not Caron .
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HI , I have looked to see if William and Ann lea had other children , these could be they born in Wigan Ann Calland born1793 Rachel Calland born 1790 Hamlet Calland born 1791 and Robert Calland born 1800 and of course William Calland born 1796 , may be
You missed out the first and second daughters - Rachel, the earliest you listed above says third daughter on the baptism. There's also these two:

Ellen 28 May 1786, says first daughter
Betty 24 Feb 1788, says second daughter
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Hi , did you see my post with regards to hamlet calland ?thanks
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I don't know if you have seen this, but perhaps it has more information:

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/e...t-calland-1791
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Old 17-11-19, 18:23
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Hi , did you see my post with regards to hamlet calland ?thanks
Yes, I did.
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