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Abraham Phillips was born in Crowland, Lincs in or about 1822 and was buried in Welford Road Cemetery, Leicester on 1 March 1890.

His wife was called Charlotte. She always says on the censuses that she was born in Oakham, Rutland in or about 1827.

Here they are in 1871: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true

For reasons I can no longer remember, I think her maiden name was Trowell. Others clearly think it was Shaw, and Ancestry links to a Charlotte Shaw, but the Charlotte Shaw whose date and place of birth fits, seems to have the wrong parents and to have married a man named Henry Sensecall or Sensicall.

Needless to say, I've looked at Ancestry and Free BMD and can't find a marriage for this Abraham Phillips and a Charlotte anywhere on a trajectory between Crowland and Leicester, or indeed anywhere at all.

Confused? You will be.

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wHAT ABOUT CHECKING ANY BIRTH REG DETAILS FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO CONFIRM HER MAIDEN NAME?

Bother, caps lock!!
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YES, I DID THAT!

Seriously though, I did look on the GRO after I'd posted and her name on all the birth entries on there is TOWELL (no 'R').

I then managed to find a marriage in SQ 1848, in Oakham between Charlotte TOWELL and Abraham Phillips Kimbl[e]y. That should probably be KIMBERLEY, which was his mother's maiden name, but that is close enough for jazz.

All I have to do now is to convince the SHAW faction that they've got the wrong woman!
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I think this is her with her family. Can anyone read her father's occupation?
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Grazier.
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It looks as though Abraham was born before his parents married.

25/8/1822, Crowland: Baptism of Abraham, son of Mary Kimberley, spinster

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...hlights=%22%22

27/4/1823, Crowland: Marriage of Abraham Phillips and Mary Kimberley

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...hlights=%22%22
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The 1848 marriage is on FMP:

27 July 1848 Oakham, Rutland after banns

Abraham Phillips Kimbley full age bachelor shoemaker address Oakham father deceased occ -
Charlotte Towell full age spinster - address Oakham father Henry Towel (sic)occ harness maker

Both signed (spellings as written), witnesses John Phillips and Mary Ann Towell
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So, her father is Henry not George.
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I haven't been able to find anything about Henry Towel, Harness maker, but whilst looking I did find this, and whilst it probably isn't the right Henry, I'm posting it here in case it helps eliminate another family etc:

(Oakham and Exton are about 5 miles apart)

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Stamford Mercury 04 September 1846

OAKHAM UNION - ONE POUND REWARD

ABSCONDED - Leaving his Wife and Family chargeable to the parish of EXTON, in this Union, HENRY TOWELL, aged about 40, a labourer, about 5ft. 8in. high, well proportioned, very plausible tongue, and has been accustomed to stone quarry work. Whoever will give such information as shall cause the above-named Henry Towell to be apprehended, shall receive One Pound Reward. By order, H.HOUGH, Clerk to the Union, Oakham, August 29, 1846.
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