PARRY family, wolverhampton

[kiterunner]

Oooh... how about this family in 1851?!
Tedds(?) Street, Wolverhampton
Sharlot Lamsdale Head Widow 34 Laundress Herefordshire Luckton (?)
Richard Lamsdale Son 4 Staffordshire Wolverhampton.

[kiterunner]

And could this be the same William (also in 1851)? He has a son Charles about the right age to be the one on the 1881 census:
Comet Yard, St Giles, Cambridge
William Game Head Mar 40 Labourer Cambridge
Maria Do Wife Mar 32 Do
Charles Do Son 14 Labourer Do
Joseph Do Son 12 Do Do
Frederick Do Son 10 Do Do
William Do Son 2 Do
Richard Do Son 1m Do
Ann M Do Dau 8 Do
Harriot Do Dau 4 Do

Have to see if we can find them in 1861 to see if their William is still with them or not.

[kiterunner]

I can't find them in 1861 at the moment.

There is a possible baptism for Richard Lamsdale on FamilySearch:
Samuel Richard Lamsdale 23 May 1847 St Peter Wolverhampton, parents John Lamsdale and Charlotte.

[Merry]

Births Jun 1847
LANSDALE Samuel Richard Wolverhampton 17 398

[kiterunner]

There's a death registration for John Lansdale Oct-Dec 1849 Wolverhampton, so if that's him, Charlotte was really a widow in 1851 (well, assuming she was married to him in the first place - not found the marriage yet).

[Merry]

not found the marriage yet

I have lost the will to live over that one!

I expect John is John Lambsdale aged 15 in Wolverhampton in 1841 (poss with father Elias 40 a locksmith)

[kiterunner]

Samuel Richard Lamsdale's baptism is on that Wolverhampton site, abode Dudley Street, occupation locksmith.

Ah, there's a birth registration for an Alfred Lansdale, Jul-Sep 1861 Wolverhampton, vol 6b page 405. That could be your Alfred!

[kiterunner]

But as for where the surname Parry came from... I'm hoping that if you get Alfred's or James's birth certificate, it will turn out that Charlotte's maiden name is Parry. There is a possible Charlotte Parry born Herefordshire on the 1841 census, but without a marriage to John Lansdale it's just a guess at the moment.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

There's a death registration for John Lansdale Oct-Dec 1849 Wolverhampton, so if that's him, Charlotte was really a widow in 1851 (well, assuming she was married to him in the first place - not found the marriage yet).

I've just found the burial of the 1849 John. He can't be the one who was listed as 15 in 1841 (and I had hoped had been rounded down from nearer 20 if he was going to be Charlott'es partner!). Here's the burial:

John Lamsdale bur 8th Nov 1849 at St George's Wolverhampton. Address Poneys Fold, aged 46.

Need to try and find him in 1841......

[Merry]

I wanted to find Poneys Fold on the 1851 census to see if there was another Mrs Lamsdale (widow) living there, but the only place I've found that address is in the 1813-1992 Wolverhampton burials. I've found the address recorded three more times and every time the burial was in Nov 1849 and by the same minister, so I wondered if the address should be Pountneys Fold (mis-heard or mis-transcribed) which appears quite a lot for St George burials. The other surnames for the Poneys Fold burials were Rodden, Pepper and Lear, but none of those have helped in 1851!

I've looked through the various marrige records on the Wolverhampton history site looking for any marriages for a John Lamsdale without any luck.