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James Ryding
Name - "official" name and what they were known as James Ryding
Date and place of birth About 1763, don't know where Names of parents Don't know Date and place of baptism - if applicable Not found Details of each of his or her marriages - if any Some time in or before 1786 to an Ann Occupation(s) - if any Don't know Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!). 1786-1795 Hoghton, Leyland, Lancashire Date, place and cause of death Don't know Date and place of burial. Not found Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable Not found Memorial inscription - if any Not found |
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?? Lancs OPC:
Marriage: 31 Aug 1784 St Andrew, Leyland, Lancashire, England James Ryding - (X), Weaver, This Parish Ann Walmsley - (X), Spinster, Brindle Witness: James Cowling; Nicholas Plaskett Married by Banns by: Thomas Baldwin Vicar Register: Marriages 1783 - 1793, Page 19, Entry 55 Source: LDS Film 93952
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Merry "Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010 |
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Hmm....did you prove this bap belonged to a different couple?
Name: James Ryding Baptism Date: 2 Apr 1780 Parish: Leyland, St Andrew, Lancashire, England Father's Name: James Ryding Mother's name: Ann Ryding Register Type: Parish Register Reference Number: PR 2908/1/4 The next baby was another James bap 22 Oct 1786.
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If that first James belongs to your couple, then this marriage is more likely!
Marriage: 8 Jun 1778 St Andrew, Leyland, Lancashire, England James Ryding - (X), Weaver, Leyland Ann Seed - (X), Spinster, Leyland Witness: Peter Shawe; Ellis? Pearson Married by Banns by: Thomas Baldwin Vicar Register: Marriages 1766 - 1783, Page 135, Entry 434 Source: LDS Film 93951
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I see there doesn't appear to be a burial for the James bap 1780 before the second James was baptised. I can sense you have already gone along this path! lol
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Oh, this is odd......I copied the 1780 bap from Ancestry, but now I'm looking at Lancs OPC. There's no bap showing for 2 Apr 1780 at St Andrews Leyland, but there is this one:
Baptism: 2 Apr 1780 St Barnabas, Heapey, Lancashire, England James Riding - Son of James Riding & Ann Abode: Wheelton Register: Baptisms 1771 - 1804, Page 10, Entry 5 Source: LDS Film 93951 So, have Ancestry got their knickers in a twist? To confuse matters further, James who married in 1784 was from Wheelton! It doesn't say that on the PR entry I posted earlier, but it does mention Wheelton in the banns records: Banns: St James, Brindle, Lancashire, England James Riding - weaver, Wheelton Ann Walmsley - spinster, Brindle First Reading: 15 Aug 1784 Second Reading: 22 Aug 1784 Third Reading: 29 Aug 1784; Read By: Rd. H. Wilson Register: Banns of Marriage 1754 - 1790, Page 39, Entry 208 Source: LDS Film 93659 I can feel a headache coming on!
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I think the children bap at St Barnabas, Heapey belong to a different James and Ann as they carry on having babies baptised there until after your couple have started their family at Leyland, so........back to the first marriage I suggested of James Ryding and Ann Walmsley.
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Thanks for that, Merry; I'll have a look.
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Found some baptisms on Lancs OPC at St James, Brindle:
17 Mar 1779 Mary Riding, daughter of James Riding of Hoghton 11 Mar 1781 Hannah Riding, daughter of James Riding of Hoghton 22 Feb 1784 Ellen Riding, daughter of James Riding of Hoghton So they could possibly be the children of James Ryding and Ann Seed who married 8 Jun 1778 at St Andrew Leyland. Definitely causing a headache! There seem to be millions of James Ridings in the area. Edit - although Lancs OPC doesn't seem to have a burial for 1784 Ellen but my James and Ann had an Ellen baptised in 1791. |
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